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pokoko said:
sundin13 said:

Make up whatever fan fiction about the left that you want, but there is really no way around the fact that leftist policy is centered towards helping people who are not well off, regardless of their skin color or political leanings. The fundamentals of leftist policy are increasing taxation on the rich to increase the amount of money going towards the poor, either through increasing minimum wage or increasing financial assistance.

This whole fantasy that the left is a party of the elites just doesn't make sense if you take even a cursory look at policy. 

If the Left isn't geared toward elites and elite-wannabes then why is it so out of touch with the poor and the working class?  Why did people they thought they had wrapped up turn away?  Why are shows like The View still around, where the hosts sound like they have no idea what the real world is like?

More importantly, why did Democrats spend the last several years COMPLETELY ignoring lower income white people in their messaging, despite that being the largest group of poor in the US?  On the surface, does that make any sense at all?  I'll tell you why--because their well-off, "progressive" target class doesn't care about poor people unless they're some type of minority.  Not only do they not care but research indicates that they are actually prejudiced against lower income white people and have the mentality of "it must be their own fault".

I will also add that I don't believe many members of the Left care about poor racial minorities, either.  Lots of their policies and programs are badly thought out charities that do very little actual good.  They exist for show and only really serve to keep people dependent and voting for more, like addicts going back to their source.  It's pandering, pure and simple.  I kind of hoped the Left would reevaluate after recent elections but it looks like they're just going to double down and simply pray the Right screws up enough to let them back in the door.

I feel like this type of hyper-emotional arguing leaves me not really sure what to say. It's all about how you feel or what you personally believe. We aren't dealing with a shared reality or any set of debatable facts. There is just a fanfiction about the progressives that you've made up and are now attempting to wield in an argument. 

What am I supposed to do with that?

Here's what I'll say: Compare actual policy proposals and tell me what side hates the poor.

Look at the "Big Beautiful Bill", for example. The poorest Americans (lowest decile) are set to lose roughly 2-4% of their household resources, while the richest Americans are set to see their household resources increase by 2-4%. Thats hundreds of thousands of dollars going into the pockets of the richest people in this country every year and what fraction of that loss is being paid for is coming from the pockets of the poorest Americans, who will go hungry or avoid seeking necessary healthcare as a result. This is one of the most regressive bills in decades.

Is that the policy of a party that is truly looking out for the poorest Americans?