Digital Foundry: Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2

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Soundwave said:

Things like the Steam Deck which are outclassed by this Switch 2 are still extremely niche devices and things like a 900 dollar ROG Ally X even moreso.

Keep in mind that the Steam Deck is several years old, you would hope a device releasing in 2025 would beat it.

And obviously the OLED on the OLED Steam Deck is in a league of it's own, comparing my Switch 2 and Switch OLED in some games, I would prefer to play some games on the Switch 1 OLED panel... Same precedent would exist for the Steamdeck OLED, it's just a better display and games look better on it.


The Switch 2 falls between the Steam Deck and Rog Ally X... And that's perfectly fine... But where the Rog Ally X will pull ahead is in memory constrained scenarios, the 12GB in the Switch 2 and the 16GB in the Streamdeck just doesn't let the hardware breathe especially as game VRAM sizes are ballooning these days.

sc94597 said:

Hardstuck-Platinum said:

For me, any portable/handheld bought today needs to run oblivion remastered, and I'm not sure Switch 2 could run it. 

I am able to get the game to run well on an i7 4790 (11 year old CPU that is within 20% of Switch 2's) + RTX A400 at 1080p with DLSS performance. This GPU falls in between the handheld and docked modes of Switch 2 in terms of compute, but is VRAM starved. 

I don't see why Switch 2 wouldn't be able to run it. 

Ram. Oblivion Remastered loves it's Ram... It's using 7.5GB System Ram on my System and over 13GB of VRAM, granted that's at Ultra with no upscaling.

Oblivion remastered *should* scale down towards the Switch 2 as it can run on the Steamdeck, but it might be a fairly janky experience due to the limited 9GB of Ram on the Switch 2, which will necessitate streaming assets from much slower storage... Which has actually been the achilles heel of most of the Elder Scrolls games on consoles. (Oblivion on 360, Skyrim on PS3)

Obviously you will lose visual flairs like Lumen Hardware Global Illumination and the need to use DLSS as a crutch.

Oblivion remastered looks incredible on high end hardware... But a light game it is not when things are dialed up.

In Short... Any games that runs on a Steamdeck, Rog Ally X, Playstation 4 or Xbox Series S should run on Switch 2, it's just what sacrifices, changes or optimizations that need to be done to get it there.

Kynes said:

Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Yep it's not designed to sell tens of millions like the Switch 2 is you're right about that. The Switch 2 is basically an 8 inch tablet with detachable Joycons though so they're not as far apart as you're making out. I'm just saying if Asus can make a 13" tablet that can rival PS5 power then it should be possible to make an 8" tablet that can rival the XBSS?

At what price, with what battery life, thickness, and fan noise? If it's so simple, why don't other manufacturers do it?

The answer is that there is no market for what you are asking for, no market at the price and with the limitations it would have.

If these are your argument points... Then no one would buy a Switch 2 over a Switch 1 OLED.

1) Switch OLED is smaller and more portable.
2) Switch OLED has same thickness.
3) Switch OLED has better battery life.
4) Switch OLED has a better display.
5) Switch OLED is cheaper.
6) Switch OLED has cheaper games.
7) Switch OLED has more games.

It's about the entire package... And let's be honest. Nintendo hardware doesn't sell due to just the hardware, it sells because of the games.

The Rog Ally X and Steamdeck are amazing pieces of hardware, but they appeal to a certain demographic just like the Switch 2 appeals to a certain demographic.
There is no wrong purchase with any of these, gamers are going to gravitate towards their own preferences and what provides them with the dopamine hit.