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Louie on 09 June 2025
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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
pikashoe said:

What I don't understand is that sony increased the price of games at the start of the generation, then increased the price of the console in the middle of the generation, released psvr2 for €600 then immediately stopped supporting it, released the ps5 pro for €750 euro, increased the price of ps plus. But many of the people complaining about the switch 2 don't seem to care at all about this. The outrage seems so forced, since there are so many greedy things happening in the industry that people barely talk about.

I just watched a video about the performance of Cyberpunk running on the switch 2 and it showed the FPS dropping down to 20fps in hectic scenes. Can you seriously tell me that's good enough for a gaming device launched in 2025? Can you seriously tell me it's ok to charge 450$ to get 20fps in cyberpunk, a 5 year old game? The concerns are legitimate it's not all just hating for the sake of it. 

The Switch 2 is a portable device. It can't be that hard to grasp the idea that some people might value a portable device with less power over a stationary device with more power. Gaming isn't about FPS and resolution, it's about having fun. How would you feel if someone said: "I just watched video about the PS5. It doesn't even have a battery, or a screen, or built-in speakers. Can you seriously tell me it's ok to charge x amount of money for such an antiquated device? It's like a home computer from the 90s vs a modern portable device."? 

Specs have no value. Gaming has value. Fun has value. So yes, obviously it is okay to charge 450$ for a device that brings lots of fun and value to people. 

I swear to god, I've seen this same discussion again and again since 2006, when I started visiting this website. It never ends, it's total madness. Every couple of years people start arguing about specs and every single time they are flabbergasted that a "crappy, weak console" sells well. 

Edit: And just to be clear: What pikashoe is complaining about is the double-standard. It's ok if Sony does it. It's ok if Microsoft does it. But it's not okay when Nintendo does it, because (in this case) you, a person who is clearly not interested in Nintendo's products, has chosen a completely arbitrary value metric ("power! Terraflops!") to measure the value of a device. But other people value different things, and that (to be frank) is none of your business. Same goes for the opposite case: If someone says "clearly, a PS5 is not worth it, for it does not have a screen and is not portable!", the same principle applies - because some people do value resolution and FPS more than others and that's fine.

Last edited by Louie - on 09 June 2025