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Soundwave on 12 May 2025
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xl-klaudkil said:
Soundwave said:

The PS2 is a paper champion anyway, it doesn't deserve the title it has. The only reason is has the record is because Sony bungled the PS3 and kept shipping PS2s in developing countries for years afterwards.

If Nintendo did the same thing with Switch or DS, they would easily be no.1, the PS2 needed several extra years of sales to get to 160.

Nintendo could have easily sold 165 million DS' and could do the same for the Switch, the PS3 being a terrible launch isn't something Sony should be proud of.

It took PS2 11 years to hit 150 million (Feb 14, 2011 according to Sony), the DS and Switch are both way above that, the PS2 isn't able to match prime for prime DS or Switch 1 sales, that's simply a fact, it needed to be dragged across the finish line with several extra years of sales. The Switch hit 150 million at its 8th year anniversary, 8 years vs 11 years is a laughable gap, that's not even close. 

Ps2 doesnt deserve to be called the nr1 console?

Ps2 had a pacman lead over xbox/dc/ngc combined.

Ps2 didnt had a "handheld only"version that somehow still counts as a switch sale.

It has one of the largest gaming library ever full of incredible games.

Ps2 whas not released in a industrie that is as huge as it is now.

It took gaming to the next level.

Don't be so buthurt that the switch may or may not outsell it.

If you need an extra 3 years of tacked on sales because your successor platform (the PS3) has terrible sales to me no I don't view it as any kind of huge accomplishment. 

Everyone and their grandma knows if Nintendo went on to sell the Switch 1 for 3 more years especially at a discounted price, it would rip the PS2 to shreds. The DS would have done the same.

Both of those systems hit 150 million way faster than the PS2 did, DS was simply not allowed to get to 160 million, not because it couldn't do it, but because Nintendo wanted to shift to the 3DS. 

The main differentiator then isn't that one platform is actually more popular, it's just that the PS3 had such dog shit sales out of the gate. 

Pointing that out isn't sour grapes, it's stating the factual obvious that for whatever reason a bunch of people don't want to admit. 

That's not even opening the can of worms of Sony's stated 160+ million number isn't even a sales number, it's a production number which includes everything from kiosk units to demo units to refurbed systems most likely etc. etc. You're not even counting strictly sold to consumer systems. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 12 May 2025