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burninmylight on 10 May 2025
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BasilZero said:
burninmylight said:

Nah, I think you're reaching to explain an overly convoluted naming convention that turns off anyone who isn't already a fan. I hope that the name of the third game is "Reborn" so we can have three different games that are meant to be played together, but all pretty much named the same thing.

There's are two different RPG series from Bandai-Namco that have like two dozen games on Switch between them + special editions, DLC and side games called Atelier : Subtitle and Legend of Heroes. Every once in a while I get close to trying them out when they go on sale, but then I give up because I can't figure out which ones came first in the series by actual release date, which are first chronologically in the lore, which are remakes, and so on. Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that.

Nah, there's a reason why these games are named the way they are, if you dont play them, you wouldnt understand and explaining to you would be a post full of spoilers and some things are better experienced in person rather than read about by someone else.

If you arent a fan, then why should you care in the first place? If you didnt bother playing the original FF7, there's no point in playing any of the remake series games.

I originally wasnt 100% sure whether someone should play the original or just jump into the remake before I played Remake but now that I've completely finished FFVII Remake Intergrade, I have 100% confidence that you need to play the original FF7 otherwise some of the scenes wont make sense (they literally showcase the scenes from the OG FF7, didnt even bother remaking them , the same blocky character designs lol).

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Your second paragraph is full of mistakes and is proof you have no idea what you are talking about - whether its Final Fantasy or any other RPG series you mentioned in this thread.

Atelier is not a Bandai Namco franchise - its a Koei Tecmo series.

The Legend of Heroes is not a Bandai Namco franchise - its a Nihon Falcom series.


You dont even know the people who made them so of course you wouldnt care enough to do something simple like searching up release dates and the order of games in both story and release order.

Anyways speaking of the Legend of Heroes games, I've played Legend of of Heroes 3, 4 and 5 on PSP (known as the gagharv trilogy) and I played Legend of Heroes 6 (Trails in the Sky FC) on Steam (planning to replay it so I can do the SC and TC back to back)

The Legend of Heroes series is divided into different sub series.

The Legend of Heroes 1-2 is part of the Dragon Slayer series

The Legend of Heroes 3-5 is part of the Gagharv series

(They dropped the numbering after Trails in the Sky FC (which was Legend of Heroes 6 originally).

The Legend of Heroes 6-21 (technically 19 since two of the games are spinoffs) is part of the Trails series

Each sub series is separate from each other world/timeline wise. 

I'm not familiar with Atelier series as much however from what I asked and looked up - its the same as the Legend of Heroes series where there are sub series (such as the Ryza trilogy, Arland series and Dusk series - meaning they are all self contained and not exactly connected).

Speaking of Atelier, I'm going to start with Atelier Ryza 1 soon and will get 2 and 3 after that.

I got most of the other Atelier games on Switch, PS4 and Steam.

IcaroRibeiro said:

If you don't bother to look for something as simple as release order or to check which ones were remakes then you're not really that interested in first place

This 100%.

I looked up Atelier few months ago since I never played any of the games and I'm interested in getting into the series, there's a lot of places that list detailed summaries and I've also asked other communities.

I'm gonna start on Atelier Ryza 1 on Switch sometime after I'm done with my current game I'm playing on my Switch (Dragon Ball Z Kakarot lol).

My bad, you're right. It's Koei-Tecmo. Both companies have tons of games on Switch that go on sale pretty often, and Bamco was the first one that came to mind. What does that matter to someone who isn't already a fan of those series or doesn't dedicate a ton of headspace to gaming though? That's my point. I haven't cared enough to do enough homework to decide if I want to spend money and time on these games, and there is no clear entry point as a newcomer outside of release date. And release date isn't everything, because a newer game in a series can make older games irrelevant.

By the way, I've played the original FFVII and I have Advent Children on the DVD shelf. I remember all of the major story beats pretty well. You're assuming that I'm not a fan, and you're suddenly turning into the FFVII gatekeeper on whose opinion gets to be relevant based on series knowledge. Maybe I'm just not as big of fan as you are, but my opinions are still as valid as yours.