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sc94597 said:
bonzobanana said:

I thought the only thing we had pretty much confirmed was the Switch 2 is using a Samsung 8Nm  

This is not confirmed yet. The only thing confirmed is that Samsung is the manufacturer, meaning it isn't a TSMC fab. It could be Sammy 8nm or 5nm. People have good arguments for both of them. 

Dare I say it but Nintendo are pretty cheap and re-designing the ampere architecture for 5Nm surely would be quite expensive and time consuming. It was designed for TSMC 7Nm or Samsung 8Nm. Surely the whole point of DLSS upscaling is they can go cheap with the fabrication process as the console relies on upscaling to perform well. The fact that cyberpunk is rendering as low as 360p before upscaling means 8Nm is a perfectly satisfactory fabrication process. However I'll admit 5W per hour is quite low for portable mode. I'm so used to new Nintendo console launches having lots of forum posts about the consoles being a lot more powerful than they actually are. I remember the wii u had all sorts of claims for its GPU performance but in the end it was about 176 Gflops if I remember rightly and had to be based on its fabrication process and power consumption. However for a long time people were claiming figures like 700 Gflops and then 352 Gflops etc. Often with Nintendo the lowest spec wins the day. The Switch 2 can still manage incredible games thanks to its DLSS upscaling.

Maybe the mid-gen Switch 2 update will have a 5Nm fabrication process and a OLED screen etc and maybe boost battery life by 50-100% but normally Nintendo goes pretty cheap on launch hardware as they try to recoup development costs as quickly as possible. I'll be surprised (and impressed) if Nintendo has coughed up for a 5Nm re-design for the launch model. I think Nintendo always want the option of lowering pricing if the launch doesn't go as well as hoped. I suspect the margin on the hardware is excellent except perhaps in the US market now. The price in Japan is around $330 I think or less than 300 pounds if you are a UK citizen like me. The Japanese price would indicate a cheaper spec even if launching elsewhere at a much higher price because they think that is what the market will bear.