| Ryuu96 said: Trump went from "I will end the war in 24 hours because Putin Senpai respects me" to "I was just joking bro, I was being sarcastic despite saying it dozens of times in my campaign rallies" to "US pulls out of mediating between Ukraine and Russia" fucking hilarious, they tried nothing to pressure Russia and already gave up. If this doesn't show you how fucking terrified of Putin, Trump is, then Idk what else to say, Lol. Their attempts at peace were to give Russia almost everything they asked for, apply pressure only to Ukraine, and then make vague comments about "I'm mad at Russia but I'm going to give them a few extra weeks to see reason" after Putin spat in Trump's face multiple times, rejected all his ceasefire proposals even after America offered a dozen concessions to Russia and despite Trump saying he is upset with Putin and if Russia doesn't start being reasonable, bigly scary things will happen to Russia soon...They've pulled out. Oh but don't worry, they pulled out only after they got a fucking mineral deal from Ukraine. The saddest thing about all of this is America pulling out of peace negotiations is a good thing, because America's attempts at peace negotiations were horseshit and done in bad faith, they surrendered dozens of concessions to Russia to achieve their 24 hour "peace" in desperation, they only applied pressure to Ukraine to desperately try to achieve their 24 hour "peace" because Ukraine was easier to bully, it was getting to a point where America wasn't unlikely to straight up side with Russia to achieve "peace" so America fucking off can only be a good thing. As long as America still sells military aid to Ukraine (which looks like a possibility) and shuts the fuck up. However, Trump will never stand up strong against Putin, it is clear who is the master in that relationship, instead they'll more likely just trickle out aid to Ukraine still in the form of AD and ammo, it'll likely all be purchased, but you'll never see a clear moment of America under Trump standing up to Putin in a strong way. |
It's basically just back to the previous status quo, but with more shakedown of the Ukrainians from us.
It's kinda like the Russian analysts say: this administration now views us as essentially co-owners of Ukraine with this signing and as a result they now see a reason to continue supporting their defense. I'm not sure all the Ukrainians are thrilled about that mindset emanating from the White House, but figure they'll take what they can get under the circumstances. Protection racket established, congrats. 
As for Trump, I imagine he's gotta be feeling a bit embarrassed by the fact that Putin stood him up and gave him nothing after all that sweet-talking and ass-kissing.
Don't get me wrong, I want peace for Ukraine, but it needs to be a halfway just peace, not peace at any price. Honestly, it does seem reasonable to me to accept something like its current de facto boundaries at this point, given that the front line doesn't really seem to be moving much anymore...like not in the last almost three years now, at least if that concession comes with a security guarantee for the rest of Ukraine. The issue is that Moscow doesn't want that. Their terms for peace are the complete demilitarization of Ukraine and the absence of a security guarantee from the outside -- i.e. total exposure and vulnerability to a future Russian invasion -- as well as the removal of all their current leaders. I see no possibility for peace until that position changes and gets more reasonable and Trump certainly ain't gonna make it happen. Hasn't even tried.
Last edited by Jaicee - on 04 May 2025
