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Pemalite said:

Well, that's the system we have... And it's been demonstrably demonstrated to be the superior approach.

Haven't really dove into it, but looks to be worth getting to fully understand. Superior perhaps, but the best it could possibly be? For CAN specifically? Maybe, maybe not, maybe needs some adjustments or additions. We'll see.

Pemalite said:

The point I am conveying is that from a legal perspective an 18 year old is regarded as an Adult here.

If an 18 year old is allowed to come out to a rescue with me and cut a dead person out of a car, then they should be respectfully afforded the opportunity to also vote, they are as much of a citizen of this country just as much as I am.

If they can do "Adult jobs and tasks" then that should also include voting. No exceptions.

It is actually up to the political candidates to educate, teach and promote their campaign to convince voters to vote for them, if an 18 year old hasn't been educated appropriately to vote appropriately, then that's a failure on the political candidates during their campaign.
It's literally the job of political candidates.

21 year olds are not afforded any extra "rights" here over an 18 year old. That includes drinking.

I get your point. What I'm saying then, is change the age of adulthood. If more or most people take longer to mature, which they clearly do these days, then adjust accordingly.

Maybe AUS is different, but in CAN, most 18 year olds are anything but competent, mature, responsible, etc. If adults don't want to be treated like children/teens, then don't treat children/teens like adults.

Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:

I don't personally agree with a lot of things. 18 is a bit young to drink, but then again, pre teens can get sex changes, so should they be able to vote? If they should have to wait until they're 18 or older, how many other min ages should be moved higher perhaps, like voting? If 21 used to be the min age way back let's say, then why let 18 year olds vote today, since we all know they're less mature, responsible, competent, etc, vs an 18 year old a century ago, let alone a 21 year old back then.

I was drinking before I was 18 (Around 14-15 years of age)... Because it's actually legal in my state. - I might only drink once every 6 months these days and limit myself to 1 or 2 drinks.
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/family-and-community/safety-and-health/liquor/for-parents-of-minors

Sex changes under the age of 18 also require the same legal hurdles as someone who is underage and wishes to drink. I.E. Adult permission.

I think 18 is a perfectly fine age, I was driving, working and a responsible Adult at the age of 18.

Well I disagree, and again, because young Canucks perhaps are different enough from young Aussies. We do live right next to Murica, and they don't call us Murica Lite for nothing. There's plenty of truth to the nickname.



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