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IcaroRibeiro said:
Phenomajp13 said:

All of that is fine because you are entitled to your opinion about Wii. There was clearly some kind of appeal because the controls are pretty good depending on the genre. There are genres that are reasonably playable via Wii mote or single joy con. Both controls (Wii mote & single joycon) may not be suited for 3D platforms (Odyssey) or 3D adventure  (Zelda) but there are franchises both control schemes fit well like racing (Mario Kart, the highest selling game on Switch), fighting (Smash), simulation (Animal Crossing, second highest), rpg (Pokemon), and many other. 

As for your last point, no one denys the Pro controllers or more "traditional" controls still have their place. I have a pro and will get a pro 2. That doesnt change the fact that the joy cons are in all Switch consoles besides the lite. They are the default. Street Fighter 6 on Switch 2 even supports a way to play via a single joycon. People clearly use them. I think Joy Con 2 could really close the gap and surpass "traditional" controls due to the mouse & full button layout. The 3D games are supporting it (Cyberpunk). 

I think we are converging to the same point in the discussion, my dislike about motion controls is entering a matter of preference. The first post that spark this discussion was mine thinking I never got the Wii appeal dueing the Wii craze, meanwhile I immediately got the Switch appeal and always thought it was going to be successful 

I honestly don't think MK8 works well at all with a single joycon, it's a 3D racing game so dua analog helps a lot here. Indeed any 3D game is developed with analog stick in mind. Remember N64, they specifically developed the stick to help the controls

Smash is okay because it combat remembers arcade fight arena which is basically 2D

Animal Crossing as far as I remember is not playable with a single joycon option, I can be wrong but I can quickly try here. It's a game thst actually features tons of menu options and need many buttons so I can't understand how can it be playable with only one 

Never tried Pokemon either (I have Pokemon Sword), but I guess this one can be played with one joycon, I might try it later too 

We absolutely do mostly agree, I just give more of a pass to Wii because I view it as the beginning of another type of controller and evolved with the joycons and now joycon 2. I can understand why you didn't like it and really if Nintendo would have just included one more thumbs tick, the majority of your concerns go away. 

I do have to push back on the 3D games are designed around dual analog because PC gaming/M&K certainly have 3D games designed around them.