Holy shit, Canada's having an election! But why?

[EricHiggin]

SvennoJ said:

Some more counting done





This directly highlights the problem with the first past the post system, Bloc Quebecois and NDP have about the same number of votes, yet Bloc Quebecois gets 23 seats, NDP only 7.

Anyway it looks like the NDP can still keep the Liberals in check while if the conservatives can convince the Bloc and NDP on a certain issue they could vote as a majority as well. But sad to see the NDP decimated.

2021 results:

Liberal 157 (33.12% of the vote)
Conservative 121 (34.34% of the vote)
Bloc Quebecois 32 (7.64% of the vote)
NDP 24 (15.98% of the vote)
Green 3 (6.55% of the vote)

Conservatives got shafted last time with our system.

If we had a system based on popular vote it would look like

                                2021               2025
Liberal                113 (157)    149 (168)
Conservative  118 (121)    142 (142)
Bloc Quebecois 26 (32)       22 (23)
NDP                        55 (24)        22 (7)
Green                     22 (4)           4 (1)

The Liberals continue to be over represented in the Federal elections but at least Liberal actually has the majority vote this time.
NDP gets shafted the most, 68% of NDP voters (4.3% of 6.3%) are not represented in the next government.
Green technically still gets shafted more but numbers are so low. People gave up on them already after last election 83% of Green voters did not get any representation in government.

The Liberals 'stole' an extra 5.5% this time, at least down from an extra 12.6% previous elections.
Conservatives match the votes this time.

First past the post system keeps pushing us further towards a 2 party system :(

You and I may not see eye to eye politically for the most part, but this is something we, and many others agree on. To the point I'd feel safe to assume we as a Country could come to an agreement on a better system, if led well and actually given a chance.

After this election, I really think it needs to happen, sooner than later, or as you say, we're going to end up a 2 party system, like the Americans, which will quickly divide us to a much larger degree than we already are, like they are, in an us vs them mindset, and then election reform definitely won't happen. At that point, it's only a matter of time before the division becomes too great where it can't be held together any longer.

The electoral map is way more blue than it normally is, and yet the Cons still lost, only because the map has gotten considerably less light blue (Bloc) and way less orange (NDP). Those lost votes, went to the Libs, adding a bunch more red to the map than usual as well. This election was a lot like recent American elections where it's been ganging up to vote against a leader/party and not for them. Countries who's people aren't inspired to vote for competence and greatness because it's not an option are Countries with a dim future.

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 29 April 2025