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BengaBenga on 08 July 2008
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antfromtashkent said:
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You're right. With the 127/1 Yen/$ it is about $ 400 million loss in 2001.
About a third of this years.

 

 so twice the loss / twice the cost of the system = the same dosent it?

 

If we take the year before into acount it's a bit different than that. 2000 show 800 million profit for SCE. So those two years comined have a profit of $400 million, while 2007 - 2008 show a 3.3 billion loss for SCE. (Years are when year ends, not FY).

Although the PS2 was not or barely launched in April 2000, the R&D and other costs can be compared to 2007.

i think that thats the combination of PSP and PS3 being out so close together is the problem and if thats the case then Sony is doing better than it did with the PS2.....

 

 

Hmm, I don't see how it does better. I see that the difference between + 400M and -3.3 billion is staggering. I don't see how you can call that better.

The PSP and PS2 should make quite a big profit, during the PS2 launch it was only the PSone.

If you consider the price of the PS3.... Plus the losses from a whole another system its like they are taking a tripple hit.

 

Oh you mean that if you take the loss Sony makes on every PS3 into acount that the rest of the division is doing quite well?

That could be. I don't believe that the PSP make a loss, it must be profitable by now. It's quite a successful device.

I don't know what Sony lost per PS2 initially. It should be less than the (rumored) $200-300 per PS3, but then again, they didn't sell that well, so didn't cause a massive loss.

I don't know if that's what you mean, cause I still think it's quite clear that in comparison to 2001 Sony is doing horrible.



I think the extreme losses this year is amplified by the complete lack of 1st party software success. Sure there are some million sellers but the development costs are said to be so high that you need a million seller to break even and a lot of 1st part games were bundled, which reduces the margins even more.
I even think that Heavenly Sword made a loss on itself. It's no coincidence that two major projects were cancelled a few weeks ago. Sony is feeling the strain of the high development costs.

This year should be better though, with Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2, LBP. Killzone however is pretty expensive.