Holy shit, Canada's having an election! But why?

[EricHiggin]

SvennoJ said:

Canadian form of protest (electoral reforms needed here as well)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/longest-ballot-protest-candidates-carleton-riding-poilievre-1.7503993

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre will be facing more opponents than ever in his eighth federal campaign, thanks to dozens of protest candidates running in his riding. Nearly 80 candidates registered to run in the Ottawa-area riding of Carleton, where Poilievre has been the MP since 2004.

Most of those candidates are linked to an electoral reform advocacy group called the Longest Ballot Committee. The group wants to put a citizens' assembly in charge of electoral reform and says political parties are too reluctant to make government more representative of the electorate.




Still far less options than a Dutch voting ballot!

You vote for the candidate you want to see in parliament, no riding bullshit.

First past the post, winner takes all system sucks. We can't vote for Carney here, not even Bonnie Crombie (Ontario leader of Liberal party) have to vote for Chuck Phillips instead. And we've been pushed into a new riding, so no idea who is 'ahead' or whether it's close in the riding we're voting in now.
https://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/news/local-news/some-brant-county-residents-will-head-to-the-federal-polls-as-part-of-a-new-riding


I guess we're 'lucky' we haven't yet entirely been locked into a two party system like the USA, but it's basically Liberal vs Conservatives every time with the NDP and Block Quebeqois to align with if neither gets the majority.

It looks like Liberal+NDP again for next term with the latest poll results. So I'm guessing the safest bet is to vote for Liberal in this new riding unless NDP is ahead here and a Liberal vote would hurt the NDP vs Conservative voters.

There's a good chance it won't matter anyway as the Progressive Conservative Party is massive in Ontario. (PCP 80 NDP 27 Lib 14 seats) While not the same as the (federal) conservative party: The CPC (conservative party of Canada) is a centre-right political party that runs candidates in Federal Elections in Canada. The PC (progressive conservatives) refers to various centre-right political parties that run in provincial Elections but do not run candidates in Federal Elections. (Note however that there is significant overlap in the demographics of their voter bases and significant interaction between the federal CPC and provincial PC parties.

NDP is second, Liberal last. So maybe better to vote NDP to give them a chance to win my riding instead of the conservatives, and thus give Carney a better chance. Fucking twisted.

I know who I want to vote for but I don't know who to vote for.

Voting in a different riding now as for the provincial elections a month ago. I don't even know the NDP candidate in this new riding, Peter Werhun apparently. Can't (pointless) vote for the Green party at all: The Green Party candidate not based in the local riding, and is not actively campaigning. She advised FlamboroughToday by email that she agreed to have her name included on the FGNB ballot as a “paper candidate” to help the party achieve the 90 per cent benchmark needed for the leader to participate in national debates, and to give Green party supporters the chance to “vote with their heart” in this election.


Looking at the Provincial election results in my provincial riding

PC Will Bouma*	24,169	47.3%
NDP	Harvey Bischof	12,002	23.5%
LIB	Ron Fox	10,364	20.3%

Yet now we're mixed in with this riding while cutting out Brantford cit

PC Donna Skelly*	23,790	49.4%
LIB	Joshua Bell	15,135	31.4%
NDP	Lilly Noble	6,095	12.7%

So yeah, the conservatives are likely gonna take my riding, while leaving me guessing whether to go for Libs or NDP.
I'm thinking Lib would be better against conservatives in the new riding.

Election reforms needed! I would like my vote to count, not to get discarded in a first past the post system.

Trudeau ran on election reform, but didn't do squat. Carney definitely won't, he loves the system as it is, and while Pierre looks to be willing to shake things up a bit, I wouldn't bet on him doing anything about it either. Most likely way that ever happens is another Trucker Convoy movement, targeted at election reform, or the majority refusing to vote until the system is changed/upgraded. Good luck getting either to happen.

I've been skeptical of the massive poll shift ever since Carney took over. Way too similar to what happened in the US not that long ago. Now Trumps tariffs are an outlier and explains some of the shift, that can't be ignored, but if there's enough Canadians truly clueless enough, not to realize that the biggest reason the tariffs are a problem is because of how weak we are, due to the last decade of the Libs in Federal power, then we're going to be in serious trouble going forward, far more then we already are, which is bad enough.

A strong, independent enough Canada, would laugh off Trumps tariffs and simply retaliate in a politically correct manner, not throw a fit and use terms like "elbows up". Trump may have said some 'mean' things like, we should be the "51st state", but again, if enough Canadians are truly that clueless, that they think Trumps going to take Canada by military or even just economic force, then they're out of their minds. Mind you, heading in the direction we have been, we've been making that possibility more and more likely as we continue down this path, so instead of continuing, how about maybe making a change and heading in a direction that makes us stronger and more independent? Pierre wants that, where as Carney seems less worried about being independent, and more interested in making deals with the EU and China. We need to stop being so reliant on others, that couldn't be more obvious.

I should also point out, I'm not so sure that those who think Pierre has the election in the bag, simply due to his huge rallies, are taking everything into consideration. That same mindset was applied to the 2020 election in the USA, and Biden still won, with a massive popular vote victory. I still think the polls are quite a bit off, and would guess it's at the very least, the opposite of what they've been showing, which would mean Pierre has a bit of a lead.