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Cyran said:
Torillian said:

That post didn't address what we're talking about now. And since that post I've learned that after being initially created by an EO in 1961 based on a congressional act providing the funding the USAID was officially established by congress in 1998 at its own entity separate from the State department so I actually fully think the USAID stuff is illegal too since it is now established by law and not just EO. 

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12500#:~:text=The%20Secretary%20of%20State%20established,enacted%20on%20September%204%2C%201961

Is this thing about the judge being in legal trouble something that Trump fans are passing around now? Sounds like horseshit, better off just sticking with the Musk tagline and saying that congress should impeach anyone who gets in the way of Trump. Sure it's more fascistic but it's more realistic than the judges being criminally liable. 

My original post as Torillian mention turned out to be incorrect.  Would of been correct between 1961 till 1998 but I was unaware when I wrote the post that congress did pass a law in 1998 establishing it as a independent agency.  Also in the 2024 congress passed a law that explicitly requires both congressional consultation and notification to congress for reorganization, consolidation or downsizing of USAID.

A decent article covering all the facts

https://www.justsecurity.org/107267/can-president-dissolve-usaid-by-executive-order/

I guess if you can give Trump credit for anything I've learned a lot more about civics than I ever wanted to bother with before. Appreciate the addition of the 2024 thing, I hadn't read about that one yet. 



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