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XtremeBG said:
Phenomajp13 said:

Accurate data (Nintendo's quarterly reports) is wayyyy better than estimates. Vgchartz data is a reference and Nintendo's data are facts. Thank you for confirming you really don't know what you are talking about. Shipments are not determined by Nintendo, what a silly thing to say. Retailers are ordering/purchasing from Nintendo based on consumer trends/their (retailer) data. Thats why the shipments are sold to retailers and Nintendo makes their money at the shipment/sold phase. Consumers directly determine shipments just like they determine sellthrough, the difference is sellthrough is estimated and you don't get to determine the data is only 1% off. The conversation was about shipments, so vgchartz data should be just a reference that isn't perfect in aligning with Nintendo's shipments which are fact!

I simply didn't gave a full detailed explanation about it. My point was, that you first see the sales for the given week or month, and depending on when the quarter ends, it can be up to 3 months later, when you see that official report. Of course the Nintendo data is more accurate, it's 100%. But you have to pay the price of waiting, and the price of calculating anything for 3 months data, when it's easier and more convenient to calculate it right away for given week or month without waiting for nothing. Seeing the data on the moment not waiting one company to put the report once every three months. VGChartz data is not a lie though it's basically the same as the true numbers and the facts you are talking about.

Shipments are not direclty determined by Nintendo but the difference between sold and shipped is determined by them and the retailers, either way it's not the consumer who determine that. Yes the consumer is the driving thing since the shipments are done around the interest, but for you to be able to see what consumer interest is with the shipped data you have to wait up to 3 full months to see it, where as the sold data you see almost right away when the month is done. That's about what was based my previous post on. Not the exactly full detailed description of what "shipments" are. I get to determine the data. Everyone who uses the site and checks the adjustments everytime can determine that. Trunks also have come out numerous times and talked about this. I am not getting things out of my a** here. The conversation was about sales. Go back and check and read the comment I first replied to, and see that it was about sales if you talk about this. VGchartz can be a reference to all conversations about sales that we all make around here too. And everyone can choose how to approach such conversations, about what regions, what consoles, or sold or shipped data. The people are here because they want data on the moment, not because they can go look over the web for the quarter reports. Otherwise this website wouldn't exist. Yes there are other things on it as well, but this is the main thing it's about.

All of that is fine and I agree. That's why I use vgchartz as a reference but not the gospel. Trunks and the many before do a very good job because this is very difficult to do. There is no denying that and thats why I come here as well. The data gives a very good idea and waiting 3 months is definitely annoying. Consumers do determine the sellthrough which in turn determines the sold/shipments so it's all connected. Just wanted to make sure we are on the same page about Nintendo not determining this. Really I would say retailers have more control which is fine because they are spending to get the items in hope they get their money back from consumers but in the end consumers determine all of this and we are simply looking at different phases of the buying cycle? I can't think of a better term lol.