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Machiavellian 1 day ago
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bdbdbd said:
Machiavellian said:

Naw you did not address it, you limited it to race when the term cover so much scope.  The thing is since you do not know why even waste the energy assuming or for that matter caring.  Its the very nature that people do not know which frighten them and the only way it can frighten them is if they feel affected.  Instead of looking at the person and judging them on what they do, if you start out with assuming they got a role because of their gender or race you already set your mind into a negative frame of thought and thus all you see is negative.

DEI was put into place because there was clear evidence of prejudice and discrimination in the work place.  There are so many cases out there that it would take you years to go through them all.  The people that do not know about it are usually the people who are not effected.  They live their lives thinking everyone is treated equal and have equal chances to succeed but the reality is not.  While DEI isn't a great solution just recognizing that discrimination and prejudice does exist and trying to make an effort to not have it prevalent in your workforce is always a good step in the right direction. 

As stated, people will always find something to complain about.  If they can use race, gender or age they would.  It really does not matter who the person is because while you may believe Cruise and Washington are great actors, there is a slew of people who think different and its usually them who jump on the net to voice their displeasure the most.  Negativity drives way more traffic than positive feedback.  You only have to look towards Twitter and Facebook not to mention a few other social media sites to see which topic get the most people commenting.  A negative story will go viral way faster than any positive one.

I'm not sure if you try to argue for or against what I've been writing. Yes, people have emotional attachment, this is why so many complain about these "race or gender swaps" to a franchise they're attached to.

People like Washington in the first place because he wasn't a race or gender swap for a role, but a guy who suited his roles. This is also why Cruise is popular actor. You need new franchises with the actors you'd like to see, instead of trying to replace the old ones.

You're right: someone's always going to complain and think otherness is a reason for his/her failures. People complain movie is bad because the protagonist was of wrong sex or ethnicity, other people complain people didn't go to see a bad movie because the protagonist was of wrong sex or wrong ethnicity. So, did the people go to see the movie to whom it was targeted at based on the protagonist's otherness? No, because the movie was bad.

So why do people complain about rather a race or gender is swapped.  Why do they even care?  What concern do they have really.  Its not about if the person being swapped is good or not in the role because they start complaining before they even see the full content.  It doesn't even have to be a franchise these people are attached to since we see this new games and movies all the time.  

The original Equalizer was portrayed by a white male in the original series.  How do you know that Denzel was not race swapped into the role.  The fact that you accept Denzel and did not question him being in the role is more telling then anything else.  Could it be that you didn't care because you like Denzel as an actor?  So we continue to just go back to its not about the race or gender but instead whether or not you just like the pick of the person who will be playing the role.  

No people complain before they even see a movie or experience a game so they have no context or reference if the actor or character isn't right for a role.  Instead they lead with their own prejudice and discrimination on what they believe should played by that role and once they have formed that mental image, it takes a act of GOD to make them think different.

Case in point, Queen Latifah is playing the TV series of the Equalizer.  I wonder if before anyone has seen even the first episode, if they did not complain about it being woke since we have not only a race but also a gender swap.