What is a "Woke" Game

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the-pi-guy said:

JRPGfan said:

I don't know.... it doesn't take much for a crowd to get kicked up in storms, and start throwing stones there. These places they literally  stone people to death.
Its more than than just "its the governments and enforced censorship", that seems dishonest.

There's a much more complicated relationship between government and it's people, because no group of people are a monolith. 

There's a two way street. A lot of terrible things happen because the government allows it to happens, or makes it happen. And the government is a reflection of the people - more particularly who has influence. That doesn't have to be a majority of people. And a lot of this feeds back into culture. The government influences culture by censorship and propaganda. 

Someone could write a bunch of books on these subjects. 

JRPGfan said:

"Especially when we are talking about "why" these games exist/why games are generally becoming more inclusive."


https://www.inverse.com/gaming/corrine-busche-interview-rpgs-dragon-age-veilguard

“I know, and something that’s very important to me, is that games are inherently diverse when you think about the size of these teams and the specializations you have within them. When you have diverse, complex, large groups of people coming together to make something, of course, the game is going to be a reflection of those teams,” says Busche “I think we need to consider that we can make the most authentic, best experiences when we’re tying into what makes us as the developers, and you as the fans, when we can tie into those elements that make us distinctly human, and that means differences.”

"Game developers also need to feel safe in what they do, which ultimately means being able to see themselves reflected in their work."

Its important for this game lead, that they can see themselves in the game they are making.
So the focus is the dev team, that makes the games, are comfortable with how diverse it is..... that's why it was made the way it was.

This doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about there. I was just saying that political conversations go off into other topics, when we start talking about things like why and how. 

At best, your reply is a good example of why political topics go off the direct subject. 

So now we can talk about, people tend to like "DEI", because people are diverse. People want to make games that have diverse stories. So trans people want to write stories where they're included, and they want to buy stories where they're included.

And black people want to write stories and they want to buy stories where they're included.

And Indian people want to write stories and they want to buy stories where they're included.

And Korean people want to write stories and they want to buy stories where they're included.

And woman want to write stories and they want to buy stories where they're included.

And companies want to sell products, even companies that are the furthest thing from "woke" often want to try selling products to more people; so they make stories that sell to other groups of people. And they hire workers that want to make those stories and are hopefully able to make good versions of those stories. 

I dont think I have ever heard a gamer say they feel the need to be "included" in a game. I dont really get what that means. Just a character having the same skin color or sex as themselves? Ive never gone "Oh wait, Im not represented in this game. Oh well...no more Tetris for me."

I can relate more to well written black people or women than poorly written white guys in video games. Like Lara Croft, which woman feels represented by her? or what Chinese person feels represented by Liu Kang?

I think a lot of these "issues" are just people trying to make money off publishers by scaring them into thinking they need to be diverse in order to not be seen as racist. A good game is a good game and a good story is a good story. No matter what the characters look like. Its a human story. That includes all of us.