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killer7 said:
Norion said:

Where did you get this from? PC gaming has grown a lot in the past several years and is bigger than Playstation as a platform. If Sony overprices the PS6 then some people will absolutely switch to PC due to that.

If i look at PC sales, there is litteraly nobody asking for so called "high end PCs" in te store i work. Console games sell much better, its where the money is made. There is a reason for example Nintendo do not release games on PC. Nobody wants to bother with electronics who crash all the time and need to load/ install more than you can actually play. I would never even touch such a crappy device. I never needed it. Also not in my work!

That anecdote doesn't mean anything since it's a fact that PC gaming has grown a lot lately, especially among young people. Mat Piscatella has said that young people have shifted towards PC and away from consoles compared to previous generations and console games don't sell much better, it varies by game but there's plenty of games where the PC version has sold the most.

Nintendo doesn't release on PC at least not yet cause exclusives matter far more to them than the other two, it's not cause they wouldn't sell. And the rest of your reply is just nonsense. Yes PC's aren't as simple and are more prone to issues that require troubleshooting but on average they work just fine and absolutely don't "crash all the time" or "need to load/install more than you can actually play".

Qwark said:
Norion said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Sony has a big infrastructure and internal resources focused in hardware development. Their increase in hardware prices are an evidence they are committed to be hardware makers, as their hardware helps them to make their software and services more popular and profitable. If you own a PC there is no point in subscribing for a PS Plus for example

That's why they are moving away from lower prices and instead are selling hardware at profit, just like Nintendo

I think with exception of Spider Man most of their single players first parties sells poorly on PCs (compared to PS5), PC sales are not necessary for Sony games to break even, or even to turn into profit. They are more advertising of Sonys brand and games, if anything. Sony is doing that because they probably already exhausted the pool of consumers on Playstation userbase.

During PS4 days Sony was almost giving away their first party games for free, anyone who was interested in Spider Man, Horizon or Uncharted could get them for dirty cheap, so Sony likely figured out if they want their IPs to keep growing there is no other way other than releasing them on PCs

Not quite. God of War 2018 and Horizon Zero Dawn have both been at least as successful as Spider-Man 2018 on PC and Ghost of Tsushima has had a strong start with it having the highest peak concurrent player count among the single player games and having good legs so far. Days Gone has also done well though there is a big gap with how much they've sold on Playstation. A lot of that will be due to them releasing there first and what you said towards the end however.

Sony is throwing in their own windows on pc with the forced PSN, which is why Ragnarok had less concurrent player counts than GOW 2018

Oh yeah that will be a factor in why the sequels haven't done as well so far. Though I think the biggest factor is the first Horizon and God of War had novelty to them since they were both among the first three Playstation games ported to PC which probably boosted interest significantly. There's also that it seems the sequels haven't been quite as well received.

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