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SvennoJ 6 days ago
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epicurean said:

I think ultimately we're mostly in agreement. In my original post I said I struggled with part 2 because I couldnt connect with Ellie or Abby. I think you at least agree they are...not great (broken?) people. What impressed me in the first game was how I struggled with Joel's decision in the end. I never struggled with whether Abby was righteous or not, or whether I would have done what she was doing. Maybe others did....or maybe they dont need to connect the way I wanted to. In the end, I just didnt get any satisfaction or moral purpose from the 2nd game. It just felt like a lot of hate, from everyone. I think they were trying to show that Ellie was stopping the cycle, but it didn't feel like an earned decision based on the events leading up to it, and even with it, didn't feel redemptive in any way.

Anyway, if you loved it, glad you did. I was glad to get out of that world, though.

Ah that makes sense. I didn't connect with Joel much in the first game either and was glad to get out of that world too. (But came back twice for more) So when it comes to connecting with the characters, made no difference for me between part 1 and 2.

I connected far more with the people Joel and Ellie met along the way, Henry and Sam, Tommy and Maria in particular. They were much more relatable. In part 2 Dina, Lev and Owen stand out. I fully agree with this:



I think the end shows, once you go too far, there is no redemption. Even after she gives up fighting Abby, she can't find peace and leaves Dina behind.

I got the same from the first game anyway, even though Joel 'saved' Ellie, the relationship was broken.


I'm glad they made a second part, building onto the aftermath of events in the first part. Tlou2 sits at 93 on Metacritic, just 2 points below part 1 and gets a most anticipated second season of the tv show. The game still sold over 10 million copies despite all the backlash at release and hatred towards the game.

Top comment on Reddit for the hatred towards part 2 "Mean muscle girl took away flannel daddy man!"

Anyway what @OlfinBedwere said, it's impossible to please everyone with a sequel to such a beloved game. Especially one that leaves things open in the end.