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Pemalite said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

While I agree that Nvidia's branding will continue to keep them as top for a long while to come, I don't agree that it will prevent Intel from gaining market share if things continue the way they are. We have seen Nvidia goof up plenty of times and when they goof up and Radeon actually plays their cards right, they do gain marketshare. It's just that Radeon then pulls a move that kills their reputation and puts them back into 12% market share like they did with RDNA 3.

I think if Intel continues to be competitive in features and prices their gpus like like this, they can keep gaining brand reputation bit by bit and really own a good % of the market. I don't think anyone can really dethrone Nvidia for a long time as a whole but if Intel can manage to get a good chunk of the budget market where Nvidia is barely competing, that should be enough to hopefully budget for the next iteration and so on.

But yea, next gen RDNA 4/5000 series should be interesting. I hope if nothing else, Intel lights a fire under Radeons leadership. Because while they may not be able to dethrone Nvidia, Radeons brand and reputation hasn't been too good recently. Especially when reviews like HUB is showing B580 being faster than 7700XT in Cyberpunk with RT.

The only time in Radeon's history where it managed to beat nVidia was in 2004-2005 where it had over 50% marketshare. - That's the Radeon 9000 and x800 series. - That means, they have been playing this game for decades, much longer than Intel.

That also means, since AMD bought ATI it has never managed to beat nVidia.

This is why nVidia is basically synonymous with the term "GPU" at this point, they are the only real player that customers consider.

Where AMD really dropped the ball is during the Radeon R200/R300 era and Polaris.
It was when they basically gave up the high-end and kept re-badging Radeon HD 7000 parts.

Well my argument isn't AMD or Intel beating Nvidia but more so gaining market share. You can see that even on the more updated one below, we have had sections where Nvidia lost market share and Radeon gained market share in the consumer space.

The issue is that Radeon hasn't been able to maintain the market share they gain and instead, they do a gain and lose cycle with overall being a loss which imo is due to the dumb moves they keep pulling. I am not saying Intel or Radeon will be able to beat Nvidia, I am saying Intel can absolutely gain market share if they play their cards right even if it isn't the majority. 12% market share for Intel is better than 0% and that is considered a gain. If they can eventually manage 20-25%, they are golden but that will be a steep hill to climb. Even 12% will be steep if Radeon fires back very hard with RDNA 4.



                  

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