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Pemalite said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

This is the type of GPU that can really disrupt the budget gaming market. See what Intel has done here isn't just really good Raster performance and 12GB of vram for a low price. B580 also does Ray Tracing and Ai upscaling very well. So well in fact that this is the type of GPU that Nvidia never wants to see because it nullifies their advantage in virtually every area. Like a 7600 vs 4060, even if the 7600 is cheaper for similar performance, the question was always how much do you value DLSS since they also have the same vram? And the market has spoken with the answer... Quite a lot.

But now with B580...
Cheaper
Faster in Raster
More Vram
Has competitive Ray Tracing
Has Ai upscaler

And the drivers while still needing work, is much improved over last gen. So why would I get a 4060?

So for now, it really is the ultimate budget GPU and it will likely be that at least till RDNA 4/5060. I really hope AMD brings their A game with RDNA 4 because man, this is how you make your competitors sweat. Nvidia... They will likely be like 12? GB? 8GB 128bit bus is enough.

The issue with the B580 that will prevent it from gaining any marketshare is... Brand.
Hard to beat nVidia when the term "Geforce" is basically synonymous to "GPU" at this point.

Drivers and long term support is potentially Intel's achilles heel at the moment, that haven't built up any good will or a proven track record yet.

Keen to see how the next lot of Radeon and Geforce GPU's stack up though.

While I agree that Nvidia's branding will continue to keep them as top for a long while to come, I don't agree that it will prevent Intel from gaining market share if things continue the way they are. We have seen Nvidia goof up plenty of times and when they goof up and Radeon actually plays their cards right, they do gain marketshare. It's just that Radeon then pulls a move that kills their reputation and puts them back into 12% market share like they did with RDNA 3.

I think if Intel continues to be competitive in features and prices their gpus like like this, they can keep gaining brand reputation bit by bit and really own a good % of the market. I don't think anyone can really dethrone Nvidia for a long time as a whole but if Intel can manage to get a good chunk of the budget market where Nvidia is barely competing, that should be enough to hopefully budget for the next iteration and so on.

But yea, next gen RDNA 4/5000 series should be interesting. I hope if nothing else, Intel lights a fire under Radeons leadership. Because while they may not be able to dethrone Nvidia, Radeons brand and reputation hasn't been too good recently. Especially when reviews like HUB is showing B580 being faster than 7700XT in Cyberpunk with RT.