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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Pemalite said:

The issue with the B580 that will prevent it from gaining any marketshare is... Brand.
Hard to beat nVidia when the term "Geforce" is basically synonymous to "GPU" at this point.

Drivers and long term support is potentially Intel's achilles heel at the moment, that haven't built up any good will or a proven track record yet.

Keen to see how the next lot of Radeon and Geforce GPU's stack up though.

While I agree that Nvidia's branding will continue to keep them as top for a long while to come, I don't agree that it will prevent Intel from gaining market share if things continue the way they are. We have seen Nvidia goof up plenty of times and when they goof up and Radeon actually plays their cards right, they do gain marketshare. It's just that Radeon then pulls a move that kills their reputation and puts them back into 12% market share like they did with RDNA 3.

I think if Intel continues to be competitive in features and prices their gpus like like this, they can keep gaining brand reputation bit by bit and really own a good % of the market. I don't think anyone can really dethrone Nvidia for a long time as a whole but if Intel can manage to get a good chunk of the budget market where Nvidia is barely competing, that should be enough to hopefully budget for the next iteration and so on.

But yea, next gen RDNA 4/5000 series should be interesting. I hope if nothing else, Intel lights a fire under Radeons leadership. Because while they may not be able to dethrone Nvidia, Radeons brand and reputation hasn't been too good recently. Especially when reviews like HUB is showing B580 being faster than 7700XT in Cyberpunk with RT.

The only time in Radeon's history where it managed to beat nVidia was in 2004-2005 where it had over 50% marketshare. - That's the Radeon 9000 and x800 series. - That means, they have been playing this game for decades, much longer than Intel.

That also means, since AMD bought ATI it has never managed to beat nVidia.

This is why nVidia is basically synonymous with the term "GPU" at this point, they are the only real player that customers consider.

Where AMD really dropped the ball is during the Radeon R200/R300 era and Polaris.
It was when they basically gave up the high-end and kept re-badging Radeon HD 7000 parts.