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[Machiavellian]

EricHiggin said:

Machiavellian said:

Hmm, not sure what you are on about.  Isn't that exactly what politics is.  Orange man bad, old man bad, black man bad.  It doesn't matter who becomes president the opposing side will see them as being bad.  You seem to be making this all about Trump but in politics the general rule is to always paint a light against the opposing side.  So yes, just like the GOP made everything Biden appear bad, so will the Dems make everything Trump does as bad.  If people lives do not change, then the Dems will be successful because as we have seen, current needs always come front and center.

Yeah, I am sure all Canadians cannot wait to be a vassal state to  the US or better yet, we would just make you a commonwealth like Puerto Rico so instead.  We already have enough states, we just need your money not your votes.

Who knows, if Canadians are like you willing to bend the knee for the US, I am sure we can think of something.

Well SvennoJ initial post was about Trumps latest stance on Canada, so... I've been explaining a more general outlook by Canadians, as one, and what's going on here and yet not only did you seem to always know better, you kept focusing on putting down Trump however you could. Like I don't know what Trump dealing with China has much to do with Canada, unless you think both Countries are similar. Hopefully Trumps not living rent free.

What was all the chatter about not that long ago, from the left, about how the US should make Puerto Rico or even DC States? One minute you want them as States for votes, the next minute, screw their votes, they're just slaves to you for profits. Oh the irony.

Luckily I realize all Americans aren't like you, who don't know or can't take a joke. One of your best comedians is your soon to be again President.

Not sure what Svennoj post has anything to do with what we were discussing.  Do you speak for all Canadians or do you just speak for yourself.  I have no clue about Canadian government besides what I can easily read but my comments are not about your government its about YOU in general who seems to be very acceptable about a foreign president demeaning your country and trying to make it ok just because the current group in power isn't what you like.  As Svennoj stated, he and his wife do not see it as you do so I am going to assume a lot of other Canadians do not as well.

Now I see your problem, I am not focusing on putting down Trump as I have not said anything personal about him, instead, I put down Trump policy of Tariffs without negotiations.  Its just interesting you feel the need to defend Trump personally but not talk about the individual policies or tactics which is what I am talking about.  Are you defending the tactic of throwing around tariffs like a bully club against your nation.  Are you in defense of his statements demeaning your country and acting as if you are just another third world country. It doesn't seem like you have this national pride that the conservative party you support is talking about because you continue to look for ways to defend what Trump does no matter how it affects your country. 

You say you do not know what Trump dealing with China has to do with Canada and I specifically stated Tariffs.  Are you not seeing the correlations between throwing around Tariffs without fully understanding the cost or do you believe that Canada cannot reciprocate the same tariffs and there will not be a cost to American consumers. Or are you saying that Canada will just take it on the chin do nothing and not retaliate.  Its as if you do not understand what an example is or you just willfully ignoring the subject we are discussing because you want to defend Trump so much.

Who cares about the chatter about making DC or Puerto Rico a state, I was just being cheeky like you were in your last comment.

If you believe Trump was making a joke maybe it was you who do not understand the difference.  If I called your mother fat, that could be considered a joke.  Some people might laugh at it and some will take it personal but the key is that when you throw out such jokes you can always lean one way or the other depending on your audience.  Works all the time and I guess you drank the kool aide.