bdbdbd said:
killer7 said:
Thank you! Thats what i was refering too! If they write it off, the number has to be reduced! Also a demo station is a produced unit that gets shipped. You have to admit, that something is really fishy here. And they did that "announcement" (i call it "lienouncement") when the Switch surpassed 141,3 million and later upped the number again when they announced 146 million. Whats next? 165 million? But the point is that i am by far not the only one doubting these SHIPPMENT numbers. Its not about manufacturing. The PSP had far more than a million demostations so it did not pass the GBA. They would have made an announcement for sure if it did! My point is that i agree with you in one thing: Demo units are counting as "shipped". But even if you tried to use such a demo unit as a private user, you could not play any games with it expect the installed stuff. And its send back to the manufactor! Otherwise all consoles would have higher shipments, also the DS. And as the DS had 4 versions you could add quite a few million to its LTD because every model had a demo unit and as i mentioned above, many stores order multiple of them. And they are not immortal if you know what i mean. Add in the fact that broken units get replaced. And that means even more "shipped" consoles. Have you got any idea how many of these units break because of costumers who couldn't care less? As someone who works in such stores i can also confirm this. How many broken demo units we see in stores? Be honest! These are millions over a timeframe of 10+ years, the timeframe also the PS2 was on the market. And it was not the unhurtable expectation, believe me. No matter how hard i get insulted, thats the truth and if we subtrack these units we have far less than 160 million units shipped. For Nintendo systems its different: Nintendo reports "shipped to retailer". Not produced! If they did it would be a different story and we would probably be looking at even less than 10 million WiiU's. Maybe it would be at only around 7 millon units shipped to retailers but they report "shipped". So we cannot argue about that. You understand what i mean? A rented console you need to give back as a retailer but counts as shipped is no real shipped let alone sold through console. |
Sony has changed the way it reports sold systems. It used to be shipped to retail, but changed to "shipped to warehouse" when they needed somehow report higher PS3 numbers AND they needed to get the systems off their operating budget. This was 2007 or 2008. Why this is important is, that this when it's "sold", meaning that one system shipped to warehouse is market down as losses, but the company still has it's budget it can operate with. When it comes to PS2, a considerable amount of systems have been sold/manufactured with both methods, which may lead to disparency. At some point of time the disparency is fixed and the numbers actually match. The "shipped" number is (legally) "shipped through accounting". If the systems are demo stands to be returned, they're not shipped anywhere until they are returned from the shops and they're thrown to garbage. Or systems made for spare parts, they're "shipped" when they're used as spare parts or replacement units - or too many units were made and they've been thrown to trash. There are millions of units less actually sold than the number of manufactured. |
And that's the point my dear friend: Demo stations get sent back to the manufactor, not thrown into garbage. These consoles where NEVER made for costumers use,so you cannot even call them "consoles".
A car on an automobile show, thats just a prototype and not made for driving but havin most necessary parts inside that a normal car has does not make it a car. These "cars" are no "shipped" or "sold" units. These cars are not even authorisised to drive in open traffic. Some of these "cars"/ unit for presentation are not even able to drive. If there is one somehow driving, and the police tops me, i would loose my drivers licence! And that would only be the Top of the mountain!
So, the explaination is Sony just added produced units to its Total of 155,1 million for them to be over 160 million. This 160,360,something would totally match that. Me and alot more people do not buy these 160 milliom shipped story. Its manufactored consoles but not shipped in the way of being able for costumers sale.
