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SvennoJ said:
JuliusHackebeil said:

A brilliant talk.

Andrew Gold's Heretics with Natasha Hausdorff

I especially want to point to how Hamas breaks international human rights in armed conflict with how they hide, how they target and so on, while Israel is doing more than any warring nation before to uphold it.

This is not a war, it's a genocide. The occupying power is systematically destructing the walled enclave they locked the Palestinians inside of.

Let Hamas and Israel both be tried for war crimes before the ICC, stop the genocide first. Israel is waging a one sided war on the population of Gaza.


The IDF is one if the most criminal army in recorded history:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/06/1151211

This is the highest death toll ever in this protracted period of warfare…There must be accountability for every specific act of criminality.
— Commissioner Chris Sidoti

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-69020237
Israel troops continue posting abuse footage despite pledge to act

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/09/israel-opt-israeli-military-must-be-investigated-for-war-crime-of-wanton-destruction-in-gaza-new-investigation/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-03/ty-article/.premium/idf-conducts-criminal-investigation-into-48-deaths-of-gazans-in-the-war-mostly-detainees/0000018f-dd46-db0d-a98f-dd4f27950000
Investigations that never lead to anything

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-al-shifa-medical-complex-massacre-provides-proof-israeli-army-engaged-full-fledged-crimes-enar

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/israeli-authorities-palestinian-armed-groups-are-responsible-war-crimes

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8ygyem84jo
HRW accuses Israel of war crime of forced displacement in Gaza

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses

https://afsc.org/israeli-violations

https://www.haaretz.com/ty-tag/israel-war-crimes-0000017f-da26-d718-a5ff-faa6ce9a0000

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/israeli-forces-in-gaza-use-civilians-as-human-shields-against-possible-booby-traps

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state



If what Natasha claims is true, why won't Israel allow journalists nor independent war crimes investigators into Gaza?

The time of hasbara is over, Israel's gaslighting is no longer believable by any stretch of the imagination. All the evidence is there for everyone to see who's willing to open their eyes.

South Africa has collected evidence and submitted to the ICJ for the ongoing genocide case against Israel.

https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/south-africa-delivers-evidence-israel-genocide-icj

The Memorial contains over 750 pages of text and 4 000 pages of supporting exhibits and annexes, documenting what the South African government views as Israel’s systematic targeting of Palestinians in Gaza. “The evidence will show that undergirding Israel’s genocidal acts is the special intent to commit genocide, a failure by Israel to prevent incitement to genocide, to prevent genocide itself, and its failure to punish those inciting and committing acts of genocide.

If genocide was really Israels aim, they do a terrible job. Israel has the means to completely wipe out all of Gaza in one swoop. But they don't. Instead they wage a year(s?) long war. And they know every day the missinformed public will turn on them more. That is while Hamas hides in tunnels, under hospitals, in schools and civilian homes. While Hamas uses their own people as human shields.

If Hamas had those means to do the same with Israel, they would not hesitate one second and wipe them from the face of the earth in a day or two. It is their declared goal to kill all the jews and destroy Israel and the USA (and all the infidels). I believe them when they themselves say so.

I feel very sorry for the Palestinian people. For the propaganda they had to learn (unrwa being very complicit). The terror government they had to endure. The mentality of feeling joy for brutally killing civilians they have to live with. And the colleteral damage they have to suffer due to Hamas not giving up the hostages, hiding behind them and breaking international humanitarian law in armed conflict doing so (distinction).

And I will be very glad for both the Israelis and the Palestinians when Israel finaly wins this just war and frees us all from Hamas, which is more or less the same as ISIS.