Chrkeller said:
RolStoppable said:
Almost all polls were within the margin of error, so hardly anyone had Harris winning. Even that one Iowa poll was within the margin of error, and it was an outlier because all other polls for the state had Trump winning. Regardless, the polls in general were wrong because they showed a toss-up when it wasn't a close race. The polls being wrong doesn't make betting firms a good predictive tool though. They just show where the money flows, so your position of faith in them wasn't a good one because at the end of the day it's like putting faith in having random luck at the right time. BFR said:
Remember the following post from Sept. 13 (Page 79 of this thread, 4th down) LMAO !!! |
So you show me an old post where I said that the polls aren't accurate in response to my post where I said that I didn't regard polls as accurate. Cool. Mnementh said:
(...) Let's make up a story. What if, the Democratic presidency instead of telling everyone to suck it up because worldwide economic situation is bad, would be understanding of the problems the working class people face. What if they create programs to help the people that are poor and are hardest hit? What if they supported their people instead of big corporations? (...) |
That is what Kamala Harris ran on. Punish corporations for price gouging, tax cuts for the working class, benefits for first time house buyers. Trump's policies, if implemented, will cost the working class up to an additional $4,000 a year when they are already stretched thin as it is. One policy proposal is good for the working class, the other one is bad. This is a very easy call, so how could Trump win the election regardless? Because it's like sundin said, there are too many idiots who don't understand the economy. In the aftermath of this election there have been way too many analyses that were built on the premise that American voters decided in a reasonable and rational manner, but Occam's Razor shouldn't be ignored. When you consider the stark contrast between the two candidates and their policies in all areas, this was the easiest decision ever, yet the American people still bungled it. A lot of them voted against their own financial interests. |
It ain't that hard bro. Polls had it as a toss up. Betting firms had Trump winning fairly comfortable, including swing states. Trump won comfortably and won all swing states. Betting firms were more accurate. This cannot be disputed. It is a cold hard fact, period. edit End of October (31st), Polymarket had Trump at 65% and Harris at 35%.... polls had it as a tossup... there is no argument, full stop. |
1:45 - 3:25 (Political analyst tells snarky story about how she knew Kamala was going to win based on the polls pre election)
Doctors aren't always right. Police aren't always right. Media isn't always right. The Right isn't always right. And so on and so forth.
People need to realize that professionals aren't Gods, they're human beings. Individuals who don't know or understand everything, even when it comes to their specialized profession, and the few who actually do, for the most part, are an extreme rarity. Flawed on top of that, they all make mistakes, and more so than some would like to admit.
Professionals are more knowledgeable and useful in general, yes, but that's just it. In general. There's good reason why people will get second or third opinions from different doctors, and why some people will spend the time trying to educate themselves as much as possible beyond that, so that the best, most informed, intuitive decision can be made.
Everything should always be questioned. Everything. And then, you question that result/answer as well.
