TheRealSamusAran said:
Otter said:
This is a pretty silly argument to make.
Helldivers was a smaller IP until it had a breakout hit and sold 12m in 12 weeks.
Astro "outsold pretty much every platformer besides Mario" in its openning month in Europe. So it is a breakout hit in its genre, a genre that relies on legs rather than big openings.
Now I think almost everyone is expecting Zelda to have a stronger start, I don't think we need to continually reiterate the obvious that Zelda is a bigger IP.
But non-mainline Zelda is not some crazy seller. A Links Awakening was last recorded at <7m... Ratchet and Clank 2016 has sold 7m. Equally Hyrule Warriors has been outsold by Rift Apart.
History favours Zelda winning this race, but there are many variables that could see Astro outpacing it not only Lifetime but even this Christmas. There will be no conclusion to this topic yet and words like "impossible" simply do not apply.
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Helldivers released on PlayStation and Steam simultaneously, and sold more on Steam, where online shooters are VERY popular. Also, if Astro didn't sell more than every platformer outside of Mario I would consider it a Concord level of failure lol, can you name any other AAA 3D platformer in the year of our lord 2024? All we have is indie titles made for a market niche.
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The remarks about it outselling those non-Mario games is not in 2024, but from the last 10 years.
In the UK it during its launch it sold better than any Sonic or Crash, releases in the last 10 years, which are very popular and liked franchises, released as multiplatformers. Also sold better than Kirby which is a beloved Nintendo platformer.
It was quite the feat.