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Cyran said:
EricHiggin said:

The only way MAGA gets dropped is if Trumps second term is deemed a failure or if a 2028 candidate comes up with something way better.

If Trumps second term goes well (enough) then MAGA will remain. Vance, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Gabbard, or even maybe RFK could and likely would continue MAGA, though each would obviously make some (small) adjustments/additions.

I expect all the republicans in the primary to run on MAGA, I just dont think any of them can unite the Trump coalition.  They may all still vote republican if the country doing well but Trump will still be there hero and weather it Desantis, Vance or someone else, they won't love and trust them like Trump.  They be another politician that the second things start going bad they turn on him.

I could be completely wrong but when I see the in fighting in the house of representative over who would be speaker etc that the sense I get.  No matter how tough DeSantis act people are not going to fear him or respect him like Trump for example.  

The coalition would probably be a little easier to maintain with Vance, Ramaswamy, or Gabbard, if the Reps want to inject a touch of identity politics, but even DeSantis is doing amazing, in Florida. DeSantis also did quite well in the primaries behind Trump, so without Trump he would've almost certainly been the candidate.

You think there isn't any infighting with the Dems? The only difference is Pelosi makes better threats and forces them to coalesce, where the right doesn't do that as well. Which is ironic since it's the left who's supposed to be so diverse, where the right apparently all get's in line and does what they're told supposedly. Then there's the media, and the only big media that'll mention Dem infighting is Fox, so if you don't watch that, all you'll see is the rest of the MSM report about infighting from the Reps.

MAGA won't turn on Trump or the others that easy. Trump lost 2020 and said it was rigged, without hard proven evidence, and yet MAGA just backed him big again in 2024. The only way MAGA turns is if things fail miserably, or if the next candidate becomes spineless.