Hiku said:
I probably should not have posted that graph until all votes have been counted. California has currently counted 55% of the votes from what I can see. 9,7m total votes so far. Meaning it should add another 9m or so once the counting is complete? I don't think the lack of blue votes will end up being as drastic once every vote has been counted. Still curious to see where it ends up though. EricHiggin said:
So in 4 years time, if Trump has clearly failed in his second term, when Reps blame Biden's economy, the Dems will just blame Trump. Waaaaaait a second... |
If one of the main complaints about his failure will be the economy, then sure. Though I think the traditional Republican tax cuts for the ultra wealthy re one of the main factors, and differs from traditional Democrat spending bills because the money ffrom the tax cuts are invested into the public, but into the pockets of billionairees who just sit on a large portion of it. EricHiggin said:
Hopefully the final numbers in the end make more sense, because otherwise you can't help but wonder. The bellwethers haven't been wrong in a really long time, besides 2020. |
I went over it a bit at the top of this post, and I think IkePoR explained it well a few pages back. There are many million more votes left to be counted. Around 9 million more will come in from California for example, which is currently at 55% counted. The lines should allign much closer in the end. But there will be a drop in turnout for blue. EnricoPallazzo said:
Some really interesting data coming. Gen Z voted for Trump in it's majority, something I would never expect to see. It seems they are not as liberal as progressive as some would say. Also it seems while trump votes are not that far from 2020 and 2016, there were 15 million votes less for Harris compared to Biden. Thats crazy. |
Numerically the shift doesn't seem notable from previous years. But that's because the right have been very efficient at getting into any online spaces occupied by young people for the past 15-20+ years.
Rather than a notable change in numbers, I think what most of us are surprised by is how extreme they appear to be bacause of the things they commonly and openly say in recent years. I think a common expectation was that younger generations will be less bigoted than their grandparents. Technology and flow of information means fewer believe in religion, etc. Presumably that would result in more progressive leanings. However I think the major miscalculation was that decades ago people didn't anticipate how that flow of information can be misused.
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