2024 US Presidential Election

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TallSilhouette said:

RolStoppable said:

When Trump can run so blatantly on fascism and do well with it, it really is a people problem and not an opposing political party problem. The American people are adults, so there shouldn't be excuses made for them, because it isn't hard at all to recognize that fascism is bad and a terrible option.

The same holds true for all other democracies. Since other countries don't restrict themselves to a two party system like the USA and therefore have multiple options for people who don't like the left, we can tell that there are a lot of people who consciously vote far-right even though there is a conservative option available, so it can't be said that there's an "alienated by the left" problem.

This puts the question in the room why do all parties, except for the far-right ones, have to be (nearly) perfect to be electable while the far-right can coast on bullshit and are forgiven for all the bad and stupid things they do. It's at that point that it becomes clear that there is a people problem, because the judgment by these voters isn't being done on the grounds of reason, fairness or logical consistency. That's also why comedy shows in every democratic country prefer to go to far-right events to pick out people for interviews, because quick contradictions and hilarious statements are inevitable.

No shit. I'm frankly getting tired of the left being tone-policed and lectured about being "mean." while Trump is holding a de facto Klan/Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. 

Let's say Trump loses in 2024. Are there going to be articles in right-wing circles and speeches calling on conservatives to tone down the rhetoric and not be so hateful towards the West Coast and the Northeast? Calls for them to understand the people they've alienated? Nope! They're going to double down on the anger. If Trump isn't under in-home nursing care for dementia by the 2028 election, when he'll be 82, they'll even try to run him again.