Games that are more fun than their extremely punishing design.

[UnderwaterFunktown]

LegitHyperbole said:

UnderwaterFunktown said:

The thing is there are also games that are both fun and difficult without being extremely punishing like Super Meat Boy or Celeste (though Chapter 9 goes a bit too far). I generally prefer that kind of difficulty.

But if you're looking for something that's specifically punishing you could always do Hardcore mode in a Diablo game or any 1-hit death mode like Dread Mode in Metroid Dread. That'll certainly get your pulse going.

I done Hardcore in Diablo 4 up to level 97, it was indeed punishing to loose all that time but the time spent with it was easy as hell and it was the games fault for logging me out in a dungeon. 

Super meat boyal are what I'm talking about yet it's more trial an error and the difficulty tends to overlap the fun. There isn't a hook there that is fun enough to overcome the difficulty imo. I may try celestial, I own that,l game, I remember hearing good things. 

Well that was kinda my point with Super Meat Boy, the difficulty isn't frustrating in games like that which I see as an absolute win. And well I can't speak to the current state of D3 or D4, but it definitely used to possible to play a very difficult D3 Hardcore.

There are probably also a ton of Rougelikes that match what you're looking for.