LegitHyperbole said:
SvennoJ said:
Look at the Israel-Palestine conflict what that leads to. The Oslo accords were basically that, keep parts of the Westbank and look good in the process. Israel also kept parts of Lebanon and Syria after 'leaving' those wars, and now full scale war again.
Putin is a war criminal with ICC arrest warrant outstanding
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and
The last thing we need is to make Putin look good so he, or his followers can (and will) try again.
The Ukraine really is as simple as Russia needs to fully withdraw from all Ukrainian territory. Then sort things out.
The struggles in Ukraine started pretty much at the same time as the struggles in Palestine
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/Transcarpathia-in-Czechoslovakia
In the aftermath of WW1.
Ukraine has declared independence since 1991, Russia needs to leave them alone.
The fault for the long duration of this war is on the West. Desperately trying to keep the status quo (money making status quo) and unwilling to send troops to defend Ukraine. UNSC can't do anything because of Russia's veto. So the West is just trickling military aid to basically turn it into a proxy war against Russia instead of liberating Ukraine.
Call me cynical but US and Europe are pretty much using Ukraine to renew their military equipment (send the old stuff to Ukraine) while using Ukraine to weaken Russia. Using Ukraine as a reason to expand NATO instead of focusing on getting Russia out of Ukraine. |
Your last sentence. Exactly. I don't care what the fault is and with whom, the main goal should be to have it stop at this point. Not throw another 8 billion of military equipment and munitions in what's basically become attrition warfare. |
Having the war stopped isn't the main goal. Making sure that no more wars are started again is the main goal. Your way of thinking is that you would do anything to stop the war which is exactly what people who start wars love. Just out last US citizens and because they have no clue how it works. Yes it will be a game of attrition because the other side is hoping more people like you will settle for anything while they continue their aggression. If you really believe that Putin will take victory and be like thanks everyone, I am done, I have a bridge to sell you.
