| IkePoR said: Supply and demand - that's why it's important. A majority of the west is white males. The majority of the audience for shooters is white males. It's a numbers game, this should be obvious. These things are almost never about token devs getting up their own ass politically. A single developer or two can proclaim to hate all game players and white males but people generally won't care if the game is appealing. It happens but it's fundamentally not the point. These things are implicit persuasion, pathologically. Concord's designs speak directly to the audience and the audience spoke back. Not only are the designs unappealing in sexuality, the choices in color range are visual mud.  It would be refreshing to have a live service game without bugs and MTX if the game we're talking about didn't look so damn boring. It doesn't get more complicated than that on the development/gameplay side.  If we rationalize this and not think of this emotionally, the white male option should always be available. They play games, they play shooters, they have disposable income and if you're marketing to the west - and you always are - you have room temperature IQ if you believe you shouldn't always be trying to make them happy. Video games are entertainment. They should be entertaining. And if you want to make money while making them, you supply for the demand for entertainment. There's no demand for video games in the LGBT crowd, the pronoun crowd, the fat acceptance crowd or the DEI crowd. Yes, white men are quite entitled to entertainment because they pay for an experience that pleases them, over and over again. I don't know what happened to half the world that game developers/publishers(and more broadly, Hollywood and entertainment at large) don't have to do absolutely everything to please their audience. If anyone are talentless hacks it's the morons who greenlight shit like Concord and the utter bootlickers who defend them. |
As someone who usually argues with the left on their idealistic stance on certain issues, including gender ideology (including pronouns), diversity and immigration, I find myself in an odd conversation today.
When I first saw the trailer months ago, I saw a fiction space -based shooter, I cringed with little interest. I then saw the gameplay and was immediately put off. There wasn’t a single moment in which my brain questioned the lack of white characters in a world where one of the main characters is a green lizard and the other one is a hulk-like with blue skin and a red skull standing next to a yellow robot. The first time I am hearing about this lack of white male representation was just moments ago because of @curl-6 post, which was immediately corrected by The Pi Gi who presented a white male character…. but wait a minute, he’s not white enough because his name is Teo? What?
I agree the game looks like a visual mud, this is a problem in many GAAS and multiplayer titles have had recently, looking cartoonish with an overused colour palette that is clearly borrowed and immediately tiring to look at. I don’t have a problem with pointing this out, this is a a proper lesson to learn based on a real flaw the game has. What I do have a problem with is conflating talking points just to create a a space where a subset of people with deep-seated frustrations can start hysterically venting about things that have nothing to do with a video game, that again, has a cartoonish tone and filled with non human characters. It’s opportunistic, lazy, and low IQ.
Maybe it’s my IQ, but “what race characters belong to” is the last thing or never on my mind. It's a video game and I don’t need to a replica of me or the real world to be able to feel a connection to fictitious characters or enjoy playing it. I don't have an obsession with DEI/LGBT either, and I am not looking for games that flopped to start making irrelevant points about identity politics, that sounds like a exhausting paranoia to have.
@Curl-6: would be nice to have the direct quote, a while back you accused an ex firewalk dev of calling people with valid criticism "talentless hacks" when they were clearly referring to trolls, it might be an issue with your biased understanding rather than an actual agenda.
Many years ago, there was a problem with a loud minority on the left seeking to find things racism everywhere they look, but these days, there is definitely a similar problem on other side of the aisle shouting WOKE at everything they see. It's hilarious.
EDIT: for reference, I thought the "lack of people of colour" criticism levelled against FF16 to be equally lame and lazy.
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