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Pemalite said:
KratosLives said:

We all know the switch 2 will be like the first, and have a portable device. Right? So thee question is, is it possible to have a hand held with the power of of ps5 or a ps 4.7, considering ps5 would have been out for nearly 5 years by the time switch 2 launches.

Yes. But at a lower resolution.

Tegra has come a long way and nVidia's GPU technology is far more advanced than AMD's, especially in regards to efficiency.
Where AMD has some key notable advantages is actually on the CPU side of the equation.

In saying that... It would not come cheap, you will need a bigger battery to drive the TDP and other costs will blow out.

The real question is... Can it be done affordably? The answer to that is a no...
But Nintendo doesn't have to, cutting back on resolution will significantly reduce those demands.

Chrkeller said:

I don't know what to tell you.  I mean we can keep dancing but I'm standing by my hands on hundred plus hours.

I have provided evidence, you haven't.
So this discussion is entirely in my favor. You don't have a leg to stand on.

Chrkeller said:

The S2 likely isn't going to match my 3050 + 16 gb ram + 12 gen i5.  

No one is claiming anything to the contrary.
The device isn't even out yet, making any such comparisons useless anyway.

The fact is... Mobile handhelds with a less efficient Radeon GPU and 100GB/s of bandwidth are playing Playstation 5 games.
You do need to come to terms with that, because it's reality... And it's something to be excited about.

LegitHyperbole said:

There's a chance that the Switch 2 could be a Wii U situation. Perhaps not that bad but it's not out of the question. Could also ve a 3DS situation but lord knows it won't be an OG Switch situation.

Anything is possible.

But Nintendo had the opportunity to present the Switch in more form factors and sell more hardware units but didn't.

...I still want my Switch TV... No dock, no display, no joycons, no battery... Just a simple and small device that can play Switch games.

So there are some extra opportunities available, should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

sc94597 said:

Sure, but the question was about getting "all" or even really most third party support. I interpret this to mean when we expect most games to come to Switch 2 and it would be unusual if they didn't, rather than have the default expectation that they aren't going to come and are mildly surprised when they do. That likely requires the Switch 2 to be enough people's primary system rather than a system almost every-one has, but has as a secondary system. 

It will never get *all* or even *most*.

Rockstar couldn't even port GTA5 despite it being a 7th gen game ported to 8th gen and 9th gen consoles... The Switch is capable of running it and has a massive audience to sell games to.
...But for whatever reason, they never made it happen.

There is more to porting than just games or the size of a userbase... Company politics plays a big role as well.

Lol, nothing is in your favor.  You view is from random people on the internet.  My view is from hundreds of hours over dozens and dozens games.  Tough luck for you.  Sorry, I will always stick with my hands experience with playing switch, ps4, ps5, xbox, 3050, 4070 and 4090.      

I don't suspect in 3-5 years my 3050 is going to run AAA third party.  100 gb/s being enough today isn't on topic to my point.  I am questioning if it will be enough 5 years from now.  Time will tell, but games (IMO) are only going to get more demanding.  I do think you are blatantly missing my point.  I am questioning what 100 gb/s will be like for MGS6 and RE10/11.  I'm not worried about today, I am worried about further into life cycle.    

I also think it is funny how you changed your position.  In one of the other S2 threads you posted concern about the S2 being future proof with third party via the rumored 12 gb...  but yet have done a 180 and think it is impossible that is struggles halfway through life cycle.  I agree with your original position.  I think 12 gb at 112 gb/s, 5 years from now, will be a difficult position.  Some developers will put in the efforts, other won't.  That is ALL I am saying.  And the big news flash, I am not wrong with my concerns. 

Hopefully this clarifies and lays this stupid conversation to rest.  But somehow I don't think it will.  Clearly you can't handle someone disagreeing with you.    



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