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Pemalite said:
zeldaring said:

In  your opinion naughty dogs games are more techically demanding then anything on 360 but it's really impossible to confirm this.

This is absolutely false. - You can confirm it.

Just by looking at what techniques and graphics features are being deployed and at what kind of scale.

zeldaring said:

I would say GTAV is more demanding then anything on those consoles of course it doesn't have the looks. also FORZA horzion looks stunning and makes gt5 look like crap. 

GTA 5 has different processing loads.

zeldaring said:

also FORZA horzion looks stunning and makes gt5 look like crap. 

Budgets. They make a difference.

zeldaring said:

 It also not rocket science  that if it is  more powerful in real world performance it would eventually be able to show in some games, like it was a long gen where are these multiplaform games that actually take advantage of the power and prove it, not many big gap in thousands of games.

No one is arguing that the Xbox 360 had more multiplats that looked and ran better, that's not even up for debate.
The Xbox 360 had a better development environment.

But the Playstation 3 had superior hardware... Which I find baffling that you are even trying to debate that.

zeldaring said:

so basically we are stuck with uncharted 3 being the show case and the reason for ps3 being more powerful in your opinion which is subjective and also can be based on the skill of the devloper. in  the end it's more powerful on paper but no developer could actually take advanatge in real world perfomance.

It's not subjective.

Many developers took advantage of the Playstation 3's higher performance ceiling and hardware capabilities.

You want me to say the ps3 has superior hardware when 360 ran 90% of the games better and you find that baffling, and what are these devolpers you talk about that took avantage as far as i know even lead ps3 games ran fine on 360 with no problems unlike ps3 had running many 360 games. intresting that you can look at a game and tell the GPU and CPU load something that can't be seen considering both hardware have advantages and disavantages so you are saying uncharted 2 and 3 are not possible on 360?

so i was using google to read about this subject more and this is the best answer so i post this again.

In addition, these debates are always semantically impossible. Until there is a metric for quantifying how powerful a console is, every response will be subjective.

Anyone wanting to discuss how powerful a console is will need to first debate how we're going to measure it. Once consensus is reached and a unit of measure ratified (Flops? Ops? Shaded pixels per second? Bozomips? Pixels peek draw per GB per GB/s median average bandwidth attained 90% of operation per GB/s minimum bottleneck bus width per instruction per clock per processor core per pixels drawn on screen in interquartile number of games?), then we can measure these consoles and sort them by this metric.