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Machiavellian on 22 July 2024
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LurkerJ said:
Machiavellian said:

You can keep hope alive but it takes way more than just the President to demise the US.  People continue to forget that the President only represent 1/3 of the federal government and even still his powers are well defined and limited.  Even his EO orders can be contested in court, and most are even hard to implement or find funding in certain situations.  So no, one president isn't going to be much impact outside of the 4 years of their term.  No matter what, what is happening in the west bank will remain their issues unless they can get support from way more countries that can impact Isarael outside of the US.  

The US has never cared about International law unless they are enforcing it.  Neither Biden or Harris are puppets, its just not an issue the US as a whole cares enough about to be something political motivated outside of the current status.

I don't know why keep you saying the president doesn't have an impact outside of their terms when it's clearly a wrong statement to make. With all due respect man, you've said numerous times and it's been clarified to you that is not the case, how did women get denied abortion during a Biden presidency?

Also, a good chunk of politicians are puppets, it's not 2016 anymore, read and you find out, sources are plenty including MSM. 

You say it's not an issue the US cares about, but if this was the case, the statement would cut both ways, i.e., politicians wouldn't be doing anything to stop the genocide but more importantly, wouldn't be doing anything fund it with weapons, money and political protection at organisation like the UN etc. But you know very well it's American bombs that are slaughtering children, please spare me the attempts to absolve "your side" from what is clearly a human tragedy funded by our taxes. 

No, what I am saying is the impact isn't long term.  I have lived on this earth for over 50 years and have been through a number of presidents and what I have seen is a president alone isn't enough to make a big enough difference to effect anything longer than a few years after they are gone.  The biggest changes are always when you have president and both house and senate on the same page because the President powers themselves are limited to specific things.

Let me ask you as question, even abortion was not just the President or did you forget that it also needed approval from the Senate as well in order to get those picks in the SC.  How much has a president effected your daily life from the number of years they have been in office and mind you, even if Trump wasn't the president, but some other Republican would the outcome have been any different.  Trump only picked those justice, without having control of the Senate at the time, none of them would have made the trip just like the justice that was picked by Obama did not make the trip because his party did not also control the Senate.  

No, the average US citizen does not care about what is happening in the West Bank because no one is campaigning on it.  If it was a big issue you would have endless ads on it.  It would be talked about at ever convention and rally but its not because one, its has nothing to do with the US and 2 most US citizens care very little about anything outside of their own boarders unless we are in a war.  The average US citizens only care about very limited things which is why Trump can have a platform that talks about absolutely nothing and still get a hefty amount of votes just because he isn't a Dem.

The majority of US citizens have no clue about US international policies and if you polled them they would probably just say we send to much money to help other nations while contributing little to our own shores.  All they really know is US army strong and every one weak so we good.  America has been doing many and I mean many crap around the world all in the interest of national security but what the government does and what the average citizen understands or knows or care about are totally different things.  You are confusing what people in power do compared to people who vote them into power.