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Chrkeller said:

I like a challenge but not punishing. No boss in Souls ever took me more than 6 tries. Sekiro wore me out, Butterfly took like 18 tries. The flaw in sekiro is having to clear out enemies near a boss to retry. Souls is better because you can speed run to the fog wall.

That really insane. godskin due and black blade only took you 6 tries. if you are that good you will master sekiro easily. I just read that elden ring already has more then 6 billions deaths per stats. I personally found sekiro slightly harder but it wasn't a night and day difference.