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Chrkeller said:
zeldaring said:

There is a huge difference between fun hard and broken boring hard. Having to start over in a very difficult game is game breaking. Did get gud gameplay even exist on GC or ps2? oh yea ninja gaiden black was probably the only one. in the 8th gen hard games now have mass appeal which never really happened before 8th gen.

Viewtiful Joe, Otogi and quite a few other hard games existed.  DMC was quite hard too.  

Edit

Shinobi on the ps2 was hard as crap as well.  

Games have gotten easier every generation, imho.  Souls is considered hard, but it isn't even that hard comparatively.  Souls is easier than Ninja Gaiden.  

Ever play Ikaruga or F-zero GX on the GC?  

Both are harder than souls.

I beat ninja gaiden on master ninja mode  and it doesn't come close being as hard as souls imo. DMC is not really challenging at all these days it was probably your first action game at the time. obviously i can't try every game but in terms of AAA games with actual scope and budget they are much more challenging these days.

you might be a amazing souls player but really no games come close to giving bosses or enemies so many attacks.