7th gen or 8th gen

[Mar1217]

@zeldaring

Being inferior versions doesn't defeat the point of those IP's presence on 7th Gen hardware, therefore at best they are cross-generational IP's.

Anywoo, I have to remind you the Nier franchise didn't start with Automata but Replicant/Gestalt(in the west), which were on 7th Gen consoles.

Also, equalling franchises like Bioshock and Mass Effect to the usual TPS or FPS, while hand waving what's litteraly making them unique dix. RPG/Choose your own adventure elements in Mass Effect, the SIM approach gameplay and narrative elements that were beyond the usual scope of FPS at the time for Bioshock(which is closer to System Shock.), is just generalization.

You can't mold a good argument like that.

Even worse, you spoke of Bloodborne and Sekiro earlier. That's exactly two IP's that are being recognized as Souls games. You know the progenitor of the whole genre born on 7th Gen machines, Demon Souls and Dark Souls.
Therefore you previous point about Mass Effect or Bioshock becomes ironic if you take it as such.