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Soundwave said:
zeldaring said:

It's not a dumb pov at all. people used to accept 20-30fps games on n64, 360, and ps3 hardware. As hardware gets more advanced people have higher standards, learn how to deal with it, and accept  other people's pov instead of using you own Made up data point sto push your narrative.

In a discussion about broad market trends and the overall industry, 3-4 people constantly trying to insert their own personal gaming fetishes and preferences is irrelevant and frankly stupid that the entire discussion has to always revolve around the preferences of a handful of people. I'm not interested in what settings you like to game at or what you need as a gamer, it has nothing of value to add to the conversation if we're talking the overall market, where the industry is trending, how massively rising budgets are impact the business, etc. etc. etc. 

200 million people with ps5 level hardware is not a small festish of people. They wanna play there games at the best possible perfomance they can afford, now naming a few games that didn't even bomb and only did ok is not gonna stop thirdpartys from wanting to stand  out graphically. It's like saying graphics don't matter because Xbox flopped against ps2 or many games with great graphics like kill zone franchise didn't sell amazing as well. Bouncer and many more. So many games with graphics  flopped in many generations that this argument is very weak.