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Soundwave on 23 May 2024
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Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:

The "cap" is fairly evident already, MH6 looks barely better than World. Street Fighter VI doesn't look a full generation better than V. They can make games look "better" by making smarter use of art style, but huge generational leaps forward for franchises that are not even selling 10 million copies? Ain't happening. Games don't magically make themselves and won't for a quite a long time. 

They can continue to use the FF7 Rebirth engine and make other games from that. 

But I doubt you are going to see anything from Square-Enix that is a massive leap beyond that any time soon. They don't have the sales to support a $300+ million dollar budget. 

Those types of "top end" visual showcase games are going to become the domain of a small handful of mostly Western studios that have massive funding behind them and probably things like a Marvel or Harry Potter license IP attached to them. For Square-Enix, you can't actually be going *backwards* in sales and think you are going forwards in your budget spend, not realistic at all. 

Agree to disagree.  AI tools are coming, just look at NVIDIA stock.  Development costs will drop and graphics will continue.  PC is already ahead of the game and demonstrates this.

Really? Show me one major game being developed primarily by AI and not people (design, not just using some art assets). Show me one major game that even plans to do this in the next 5 years. Show me one game that utilizes a 4090 outside of just cranking resolution. All "next gen" games are still playable on a 2050 GPU. This hardware is largely not being pushed at all. 

Development costs are not dropping. You're delusional if you think that is what's happening now. If they were maybe you ought to send Sony/Insomniac and all these other studios the memo, because apparently that isn't the reality of what's going on. 

Nvidia stock is high not because of AI for game development (lol) it's because of stupid basic photos it can generate and even that they are very crude still and the AI cannot yet understand very simple specific commands. People are investing because they think maybe in 10 years this might be the next internet. It is still years, probably even decades away from being able to be used in a way where you can just tell it "make me a Mario game with XYZ and I want the texture in this level to like like this, and Mario to have these physics now I want this level to have this, this, and this" etc. etc. etc. etc. 

If it was there, why the fuck would I even wait for game developers, I could just tell the AI to make me the game I want. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 May 2024