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pokoko said:

Uh huh. Anyway, as Tim Cain says, "anything Bethesda does from now on, that's canon."

I also love what he said about how the different main characters kind of represent different playthroughs, including the selfish run (like when you join the BoS just for the Power Armor) and the "murder hobo" run.

Spoiler!

As for Shady Sands, Todd Howard has stated that "the fall" is separate from "the nuke," which happened after New Vegas.

Really looking forward to Goosey's first encounter with a Death Claw.

Spoiler!

That's what I suspected but holy shit the New Vegas fanboys losing their damn minds at a single date on a whiteboard.

How I interpreted it is a "Fall" of something isn't necessarily only reference to the final date in which something was completely destroyed but the series of events which lead up to that collapse, in that sense, the "Fall" of Shady Sands in this context would be when things started going bad for Shady Sands which led to them eventually being nuked.

That was my interpretation but there's multiple other explanations that work.

I want Thaddeus to encounter a Death Claw and somehow win, Lol.