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Jumpin said:
Norion said:

It hasn't been a flop at all. It's sold well considering the size of the handheld PC market to the extent it has caused that market to grow and has added value to Steam so it's definitely been a success for Valve. They literally couldn't fulfill demand for it for a while after it came out so it's not like it's sold less than they were expecting.

Explaining the Steam Deck was expected to have a low demand, that it's a "PC handheld", and that it is difficult to produce aren't reasons why it wasn't a flop. Rather, you explained some of the reasons why it was a flop.

In other words: explaining the causes of the flop doesn't explain away the causes of the flop.

But even if we agree to disagree, and you don't want to call it a flop no matter what, then at best you've argued it's a winner in an irrelevant subcategory of a subcategory of gaming devices.

Either way, the main point I was getting at is that the Steam Deck isn't successful enough to be in any way an explanation or evidence supporting the argument that Nintendo users only buy Nintendo games on Nintendo systems.

You know that small markets are a thing right? A product doesn't have to sell a lot to be a success if it matches or exceeds the expectations of the company has depending on the size of the market its targeting. A product releasing in a small market and being by far the most successful product ever in that market is clearly a success.

That main point is right though I think the broader argument his comment implies is that many people will play just Switch exclusive games on the Switch and multiplat ones on a more powerful platform and that has a lot of truth to it though many other people do still play multiplat games on it of course.

Last edited by Norion - on 15 April 2024