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JEMC said:
EricHiggin said:

What about Vega VII? Wasn't that supposed to be the high end flagship that competed with the 2080? I know it's not quite typical since Vega was the old GCN arch and RDNA was the new arch, but AMD did make the effort to attempt to compete with something. Whereas they didn't bother with GCN4 (Polaris) and it sounds right now like they won't with RDNA4, and both are when the mid gen console upgrades happened.

Good question!

In my opinion, it's open to interpretation. I never saw those Vega, Fury and the Radeon VII cards with the fancy HBM memory as regular consumer cards. They felt like enterprise grade products that AMD repurposed for gaming in a rather futile intent to bring something that could compete with Nvidia, but they were too expensive and power hungry (how times change!).

The fact that both architectures coexisted for a limited time only shows that AMD didn't try to have a high end part with the RDNA cards and had to rely on another iteration of GCN that was, if we're honest, kind of  half assed.

Well the RTX 4000 cards aren't exactly power efficient or cheap, not to mention the 4090, which doesn't exactly feel like a consumer grade card unless you want to deem it a halo flagship product as well. I mean does the 4090 not count at all then?

You also have the RX 7900 branding when it should really be 7800, which AMD did to try to appear to be competing with the highest Nvidia tier, so would it really count for them to be truly competing this generation either?

To keep from muddying the waters too much, to me it looks like the times that are clear when AMD only aimed at mid tier generations were the 400/500 series and the upcoming 8000 series.