Pemalite said:
RolStoppable said:
The goal of the far-right is the same in every democratic country: Destroy democracy from within.
So what if they are the reason for all the current problems. They've already brainwashed their voters into believing everything they say and distrusting everything someone else says. That's the strategy.
The USA as a whole has behaved stupid enough to give the biggest loons of the republican enough confidence to go for it. The perception of January 6th among American voters is the foundation of this, because it shows how far gone many Americans already are.
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The further left or right you go, the more they are the same. Aka. Horse-shoe political theory.
Center-right leaning individuals definitely do not wish to destroy democracy anymore than center-left.
Just because someone is conservative also doesn't mean they agree with all the agenda's pushed forth by the conservative side like abortion either... Or even adhere to various conspiracy theories.
The binary Left vs Right is a silly debate and I would love for political discussions to move on from that and move onto debating various policies and legislature on a merits basis rather than simply shutting it down because their opponents pushed it.
Obviously the media plays a big role... I.E. Fox vs CNN can propagate fake information just as readily as each other... And they love to sensationalize and "rally" their support base... It's what helps make them money in the end.
As for January 6th... Trump should be jailed just for that without question.
Peaceful protest is a democratic right across the globe in free societies... Storming the capital and rallying your fan-base to do it is blatantly illegal.
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If you're a conservative who supports abortion rights, you'll hold your nose and vote Republican anyway. The Republican Party is ruled by evangelicals from the South and Midwest, and criminalizing abortion is now baked into the party's DNA. For fiscal conservatives, aboriton rights and women's health are very small sacrifices made for tax cuts, deregulation, and shielding from liability/prosecution when people are hurt or killed by deregulation.
For that same reason, conservatives who denounced Trump in 2020 will overwhelmingly vote for him again in 2024. Just as one example, Nelson Pelz, a billionaire conservative activist who is trying to oust Bob Iger at Disney, said in 2020 that he regretted voting for Trump. Just a week ago, Pelz said that he was going to vote for Trump but wasn't "happy" about it, citing Biden's age as a concern. Trump is less than four years younger than Biden, and Pelz himself is two years older than Biden. Pelz had supported Ron DeSantis until DeSantis completely crashed and burned in the primaries.
"Center right" individuals in the United States consider tax cuts and deregulation far more important than democracy. They don't want to destroy democracy, but they will willingly collaborate with those who do, as long as they get what they want.
Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 27 March 2024
