The Road to 160m+ for Nintendo Switch

[burninmylight]

RolStoppable said:

burninmylight said:

I will repeat this again, for what a time that is probably in the teens by now... When I misunderstood Norion's stance, I at least kept trying to get clarification. I explained my stance and my interpretation of what I thought he meant several times, and I acknowledged the possibility of other things he could have meant. At no point prior our PMs did I get a clear and consistent response to that.

You jumped into the mix also with an assumption. Turns out your assumption was right, but also as I have said several times by now, I was skeptical at that point because the whole misunderstanding could have been cleared up with a confirmation or a simple statement much earlier. Either way, between that and your self-appointed role as arbiter of who does and doesn't deserve respect on VGC, you're in the Trump tier of god complex when you're really more like The Joker.

Seriously, who the hell are you to decide who deserves to be treated in what way? This isn't preschool, and you aren't some shepherd that needs to guide your flock of children down the right path of personal development. Norion and Don are both grown ass men who can speak for themselves. The former was just as instrumental in the path that our argument went down, but he at least has the awareness to self-reflect, the maturity to own his part and the willingness to extend an olive branch. I don't need your self-appointed arbitration, that kind of person wins respect himself. The latter, as far as I know, does not.

I am not going to pretend that I never jumped the gun when addressing someone, however, when I went wrong, I didn't drag it out for around ten posts before I started making concessions.

Did you have a troll suddenly leaping out from under a bridge blindsiding you at the first opportunity when you jumped the gun? Did the troll then raise the other person's hand along with their own and start declaring winners because that's all they care about? Did the troll then keep going on and on about likes and popularity contests like its high school or Twitter before finally showing some degree of rationality about the matter himself?

I stopped bringing up F-Zero and all that other stuff because I stopped caring about that part at that point and your argument was sound. That's why I said you won. Because ultimately, that's all you want to hear. It doesn't matter what the subject is about, you want to roll around with the other party in the mud until you're the last one standing. This newfound sense of moral highstanding is a farce; you just want someone to mudwrestle with you, and you found that partner in me once again. Like I said, I've been on this site long enough to know when I'm being gaslighted by its biggest troll.

However, I do thank you for saying that part out loud. Not gaslighting, but admitting that you just want to go back and forth endlessly in a public space for no reason.

So I made an assumption that turned out to be correct by your own admission. Doesn't sound bad then.

I've experienced much worse on this site than what you are going through here and it should be clear that most of this is here is your own fault when you keep being upset that I joined a discussion with a correct assumption, which by the way is something that everyone is allowed to do on a public forum. You were given the choice of how (or if) you want to end this here, you chose once again to fight and at the same time you are upset that the fight continues.

What do you hope to achieve here? That people view me as the most toxic user on VGC? How is this supposed to happen with the behavior you put on display.

Like I said, all you care about is being told you're right. You can't see the hypocrisy in attacking me because in your eyes, being right is all that matters. So all your claims about who does and doesn't deserve respect mean nothing, because it comes down to you needing that affirmation and using it as justification for your behavior and treatment of others.

Also, I keep meaning to throw this out there: you agree with my original point about it not mattering when the Switch launched:

RolStoppable said:

The reason why console manufacturers target the holiday season for console launches is because it works as a safety net. Even if the launch isn't smooth, the gift-giving season is bound to provide a sales boost; this is why even the disastrous Wii U was able to manage to ship more than 3m units during its launch quarter. The other big factor is that a lot of people come together for Christmas, so there's bound to be more first-hand exposure to a new console than there would be at a different time of the year, and this exposure usually creates more post-launch demand.

Overall though, all the decades of video game history have made it clear that the launch timing isn't all that important. A well-executed system will do well regardless and a flawed system will come down to dangerous levels of sales also regardless of a holiday launch or not.

This post was literally right after my first post to Norion. You then later on said I don't have a point... even though you pretty much said the same thing right after I did. You saw the chance to swoop in and attack based on verbiage that I found unclear, took the assumption that is the opposite of mine as an alibi, and went into full attack mode under the justifications that I'm attacking him. So now you're just a knight in shining armor here to slay the dragon, using the logic that misunderstanding someone's intended stance makes one an asshole, therefore your approach is totally sound and not hypocritical at all.

I gave you a choice to move this to a private discussion so we can stop derailing the thread - the very thread you said is yours so, you have a vested interest in everything that goes in it - and settle it just between us, but you declined the offer.

RolStoppable said:

And I still stand by this analysis of the situation. This was the point where you then responded that you've cleared things up with Norion privately, and I said that's good; accompanied by my funny observation of likes which was enough reason for you to fight. I can't deny that I like a good forum brawl, hence why I kept engaging.

I hope this post contained sufficient explanations for the various points you talked about. I am prepared to fight some more, because it's not like there's much else to talk about on this website. But why again do we need to fight? There's no good reason for it... well, other than the good old NFC North rivalry. If you want to fight, you can have a fight. If you want to have a productive end, you can have that too; although we are well past that end already because you and Norion are good now. So the productive end would be something along the lines of "no hard feelings"?

RolStoppable said:

super_etecoon said:

Hey, guys, maybe we can move along from personal attacks in this thread. It's already exciting enough without having one-on-one competitions. I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I don't see the current back and forth furthering the discussion regarding the Switch becoming the best selling console of all time.

Nah, it's not exciting. It's typically boring for long stretches, because financial reports are three months apart and new announcements inbetween are sparse. In that sense, going back on topic essentially means to abandon this thread for two months.

And yet, you're claiming that I'm the sole reason this is still going on. Between your desire to keep dancing this silly dance and your hard-on for likes, it's coming across as petty desperation for attention. You were at least kind enough to admit that you just want to keep your thread from dying, so there's that.

I don't need Likes to feel justified, and I don't need to settle my grievances in public, so I will once again offer for you to message me privately so we can talk this out without need of making it a spectacle any further. I've played your game long enough, and I've long been tired of giving this whole thing oxygen. Otherwise, take the last word - Lord knows you must have it - and I'll see you the next time you feel like going 12 rounds in a forum brawl to please that part of your brain.

Lastly, I'd appreciate it if you stopped telling me that I'm upset or how I feel. You have no idea how I feel or what emotions I'm experiencing through this thread. I got triggered with Norion originally, which is why I let this thing morph into what it has. Thankfully, we've made peace. You don't draw that kind of emotion out of me in the same way that people stopped caring about Bart Simpson a couple of decades ago.