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RolStoppable said:
burninmylight said:

So now you're getting into withdrawn likes that you can't measure (but you're SO sure exist, because apparently you're scanning each and every post for updates) and using a like-to-post ratio to determine... what exactly? You say I'm only making an assumption that your stance is "likes = winning", but you sure are spending a lot of time and energy keeping up with them to consistently bring them up.

My argument was based on a misunderstanding, one in which I consistently pushed for a complete one. I keep saying this, and you keep ignoring it. Me and the guy I got into it with eventually realized that it had gone too far and we talked privately, and I owned up to my behavior. I'm not embarrassed to say that. Funnily enough, we both kind of realized that we needed to course correct after you got involved. At least for me, it helped me see who I don't want to become.

You've always had enemies on this site because you spend most of your time here picking out posts that allow you to humiliate people. That's a great way to make enemies. Don and I have a history, but outside of saying, Nice burn, you really got me there and So what's your new spin for why Nintendo consoles keep getting new releases for games from big publishers if Nintendo users only buy Nintendo games? what did I say that wasn't on topic? I asked him for sources on his claims and I backed up mine. Yeah, I put a little extra spice on those posts based on who I was replying to. But my original reply was to Mnementh about how it's not fair to compare years-late and Legacy Edition Switch ports when there are better comparisons. But that doesn't fit your agenda, so you left that part out. Either way, are we really going to pretend like the very behavior you're trying to call me out for isn't the very behavior that you've brought to this site for much longer and in greater amounts?

I don't see your name within the first 40 or so posts of this thread, but I'll take your word that it's yours now. If you really wanted to come to some sort of resolution instead of trying to turn me into the next victim of your public flogging kink, maybe you do like Norion did and take it private. He's the one "good guy" in this whole situation; I've never pretended like it's me, and it sure as shit ain't you. With your sudden moral grandstanding, I'll have some optimism that you actually want to resolve this in a productive manner.

This sidetracking with the likes started with me making a funny observation and then you kept talking about in ways that weren't really true. The withdrawn likes became relevant because you said you got "at least 6 likes", but I didn't count that many; therefore there must either be withdrawn ones or you lied about the number; that's all there is to that. The like-to-post ratio became relevant because you talked about likes as if you had received plenty before I had made my funny observation; a like-to-post ratio that is well below 1 like per post is nothing to brag about; that's all there is to that. You didn't say anything about the F-Zero topic anymore, but kept responding, so something else was talked about, namely the likes because of my funny observation and my toxic behavior because you deemed that to be more relevant; this is how the discussion "evolved" (I put this in quotes because the word "went sideways" is probably more appropriate in this case).

Your original argument was based on a misunderstanding, followed by perplexing behavior. I brought up DonFerrari to elaborate on what I mean, and I don't mind that you put extra spice into your responses to Don because it's appropriate in that spot; the point here is that Don and Norion are not alike, so they shouldn't be treated the same way. I am not going to pretend that I never jumped the gun when addressing someone, however, when I went wrong, I didn't drag it out for around ten posts before I started making concessions.

You don't need to take my word on this being my thread. You can either look at the Hot Topics section on this website's frontpage or at the Hot Topics list in the Forum section. My name is listed as the thread creator's in both places.

As for the good guy/bad guy talk, I'll quote myself:

I am glad that you are finally willing to stop. Why am I supposed to know when you are serious or use extensive hyperbole? When you complain about misinterpretation, you should at least hold up your end, especially in a discussion that only exists in the first place because of the way you addressed Norion. I don't think any observer of this thread thinks that you are the good guy here. But it's also not that I think you are bad, rather it's that you missed the point where you should have reconsidered and instead doubled down, so that's how it got so far.

And I still stand by this analysis of the situation. This was the point where you then responded that you've cleared things up with Norion privately, and I said that's good; accompanied by my funny observation of likes which was enough reason for you to fight. I can't deny that I like a good forum brawl, hence why I kept engaging.

I hope this post contained sufficient explanations for the various points you talked about. I am prepared to fight some more, because it's not like there's much else to talk about on this website. But why again do we need to fight? There's no good reason for it... well, other than the good old NFC North rivalry. If you want to fight, you can have a fight. If you want to have a productive end, you can have that too; although we are well past that end already because you and Norion are good now. So the productive end would be something along the lines of "no hard feelings"?

I will repeat this again, for what a time that is probably in the teens by now... When I misunderstood Norion's stance, I at least kept trying to get clarification. I explained my stance and my interpretation of what I thought he meant several times, and I acknowledged the possibility of other things he could have meant. At no point prior our PMs did I get a clear and consistent response to that.

You jumped into the mix also with an assumption. Turns out your assumption was right, but also as I have said several times by now, I was skeptical at that point because the whole misunderstanding could have been cleared up with a confirmation or a simple statement much earlier. Either way, between that and your self-appointed role as arbiter of who does and doesn't deserve respect on VGC, you're in the Trump tier of god complex when you're really more like The Joker.

Seriously, who the hell are you to decide who deserves to be treated in what way? This isn't preschool, and you aren't some shepherd that needs to guide your flock of children down the right path of personal development. Norion and Don are both grown ass men who can speak for themselves. The former was just as instrumental in the path that our argument went down, but he at least has the awareness to self-reflect, the maturity to own his part and the willingness to extend an olive branch. I don't need your self-appointed arbitration, that kind of person wins respect himself. The latter, as far as I know, does not.

I am not going to pretend that I never jumped the gun when addressing someone, however, when I went wrong, I didn't drag it out for around ten posts before I started making concessions.

Did you have a troll suddenly leaping out from under a bridge blindsiding you at the first opportunity when you jumped the gun? Did the troll then raise the other person's hand along with their own and start declaring winners because that's all they care about? Did the troll then keep going on and on about likes and popularity contests like its high school or Twitter before finally showing some degree of rationality about the matter himself?

I stopped bringing up F-Zero and all that other stuff because I stopped caring about that part at that point and your argument was sound. That's why I said you won. Because ultimately, that's all you want to hear. It doesn't matter what the subject is about, you want to roll around with the other party in the mud until you're the last one standing. This newfound sense of moral highstanding is a farce; you just want someone to mudwrestle with you, and you found that partner in me once again. Like I said, I've been on this site long enough to know when I'm being gaslighted by its biggest troll.

However, I do thank you for saying that part out loud. Not gaslighting, but admitting that you just want to go back and forth endlessly in a public space for no reason.