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Norion said:
Shtinamin_ said:

No, how do you take hypotheticals too seriously?
burninmylight has a point. So how are you gonna explain "why having an earlier launch would have increased the availability of stock."

We can be reasonable people and have conversations even interesting conversations like this, and why can't we see how far the iceberg goes? (rhetorical) If it gets personal, we should ere on the side of caution.

I'm curious about that question regarding earlier launch.

By going into the realism of it when that is irrelevant to the point. I don't have to explain that since I'm not arguing that they should've launched it in late 2016 with the circumstances they had, just that it would've been better if they had different circumstances back then making it feasible for Nintendo to launch it then.

It really feels like you're using the word "hypothetical" as a scapegoat to hide that you have nothing to back up your claims other than what-if scenarios. Yeah, IF Nintendo had the launch lineup and stock ready by Q3 or Q4 2016, maybe it should have launched the Switch sooner. IF Nintendo would have went with CDs for the N64, maybe it would have crushed Sony and the video game landscape as we know it today would be vastly different. IF it went with standard DVDs and a black color scheme for the launch GCN, that console would have sold much better. IF it embraced HD resolution and online gaming sooner with the Wii, that console wouldn't be seen as the casual machine. IF it didn't force the big bulky controller of the Wii U and gone with a less stupid name, that console wouldn't be it's worst selling home console ever.

If all you're going to is devolve any basis of a point you had into further make believe scenarios with ideal conditions, then why even continue? This is a message board where we have receipts, not a playground argument where we don't. It's pretty clear that you started out speaking in absolutes, not hypothetical:

Norion said:

If it is delayed to early 2025 then overtaking the PS2 would become likely. A 3-4 month delay to presumably get software ready wouldn't be that big a deal but would still be a blunder from Nintendo cause holiday 2024 is the perfect time to make that quarter be big instead of weak so ideally launch software would be ready by then. Also from a personal perspective I want to see the new hardware as soon as possible by this point but at least it's only at most a year away.

Sounds like a statement of supposed conviction and belief to me, not hypothetical pondering

Norion said:

I didn't say Nintendo should wait, I've been saying the opposite in fact. I think it releasing late this year would be better than them waiting a few extra months and releasing early next year so they can take advantage of the holiday season and have a strong quarter then instead of a weak one. I think you've misunderstood me somehow.

OK, so I'll spot you the claim that you're just talking about  a "What if in hindsight?" scenario for the Switch 1's launch. Now explain why this applies to the Switch 2. I will repeat what I and others have said ad infinitum in this thread: if it sales out regardless of when it launches, then it makes absolutely no difference when it launches. The result is the same, demand outpaces supply and there is no holiday season to take advantage of. It's actually the opposite: the holiday season is wasted because these is no sales boost from it. The only thing causing a "weak" quarter is being so woefully stripped of resources to output more units that it  hurts sales figures and/or forces Nintendo to lower projections. When is the last time Nintendo had a weak quarter?

So again I ask, answer that last question, then explain to me how launching sooner would help prevent stock shortages for the Switch 2. Then explain to me how launching outside of the holidays makes for a weak quarter sans stock issues.

No more playing make believe. Shit or get off the pot.