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EricHiggin on 18 February 2024
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haxxiy said:
EricHiggin said:

I saw the leaks but XB has been toying with the handheld idea for a long time now, which they mentioned a while back, so I'm not all that convinced they'll go for it just yet. I'd say I'm more 70/30 they won't right now, but if hardware sales keep dropping and GP doesn't take off, they'll need another way to bring gamers in and a handheld could help.

A 4TF handheld next gen wouldn't be bad as long as it had reasonable enough battery life. Then might as well have a 12TF S2 and 30-36TF X2? S to X is 3X power now. Rumors say PS5 Pro should be around 20TF, so 30-40TF next gen shouldn't be out of the question. Would depend on how much of a gap the devs are ok with. Maybe if XB gets the RAM allotment right this time they could make it work.

I'd still shoot for 1 handheld and 1 console in that case. Make sure the console hits $400 and make sure it's worth every penny, whatever the performance.

Just a small correction to your numbers, remember RDNA3 and beyond have double FP32 instructions per INT32 just like Ampere and Ada. Since most games are bottlenecked by the latter that doesn't mean much in practice. The 7600 XT is 20 TF in theory but performs just like a PS5-tier GPU, so I doubt that will be the case for the PS5 Pro (looking into it now, people forgot to multiply the rumored 60 CUs by 2 again when estimating specs).

I don't think you can a 7600M and underclock it to the degree it would make a reasonable battery life with Series S-like power (~ 8 RDNA3 TFlops) but you probably could if it were 5/4 nm, so that's already doable.

I didn't take that into account actually. Didn't even come to mind. Probably like you said, because it doesn't really matter at the moment. Plus it would make it more confusing to some for no reason really. It would be like using Vega's RPM and saying that gave PS4 Pro like 8TF or whatever, which wasn't really the case, and only rarely might some devs go to the trouble of putting it to real good use getting considerable extra performance from it. The rest of the time, in most cases, it might've added a slight bump to performance but that's it.

As for the handheld itself, 4 old TFs or 8 new TFs, let's just say 4TF to make it easy, should be doable by 2026 if XB wanted to launch that early, but it might be a little more costly that early, maybe. If they wait until 2028, 4TF should totally be doable with decent battery life.