Tober said:
sundin13 said:
So, you are willing to trade women's rights for the theoretical prospect of future change which may somehow come if you don't vote? Because that is basically what the "they are both bad so I'm not voting" argument amounts to: The negative consequences of a MAGA government are a price you are willing to pay in order for the assumed increased chance of future positive change. In regards to some of your other points:
-Biden passed the largest green energy bill in this country's history
-I agree that Biden has a lackluster foreign policy track record but leaving Afghanistan is not nothing, and I support continued investment in Ukraine. There is little evidence that Trump would be an improvement in this category.
-What exactly would you like to see Biden do in regards to state-level legislation on abortion, beyond what he has done (which, again, there have been actions taken in regards to the necessity for hospitals to provide life saving abortions, actions which have expanded access to medication abortion, expanded access to abortion travel for federal employees and the appointment of pro-Roe supreme court justices, which is not nothing)
Finally, what would be different under a MAGA government:
-Healthcare
-Taxation
-LGBTQ rights
-Women's rights
-Immigration
-The continued existence of our democracy How much are you looking for? |
-Women's rights Nothing wrong with supporting women's rights, but I also support the rights of unborn babies. If a women is assaulted that's horrible. If a pregnant women is assaulted it's even more horrible. Everyone gets that, because deep down we understand that not just one individual is assaulted, but two. Any judge would judge harder on the person assaulting a pregnant women for this very reason. I am in favor that in some situations an abortion should be allowed, but I am not comfortable in the wording as 'women's rights'. This wording would imply that in any situation abortion should be allowed, dismissing any rights of the unborn baby entirely. |
I'm not getting into an abortion debate here, but no matter your opinion on the matter, there is a clear difference in policy here between a MAGA government and a Democrat government.
