Mario v Link. SMB Wonder v TotK

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Slownenberg said:

And yet Odyssey is like 10m in front of NSMBUD. Not a good argument when you cherry pick your data haha. So yeah, I don't base my idea on cherry picked sales data haha. Also Odyssey came out 2017 as a very hyped up game with huge launch, while NSMBUD came out in 2019 with little fanfare so it's all legs. Naturally a game that launched huge and launched significantly earlier is gonna tend to have less legs despite being far more popular. Also note that even your cherry picked sales data shows that Odyssey's legs are now rising over NSMBUD, despite having a 10m sales lead and launching earlier.

Regardless, I'm not sure what your argument has to do with the part of my comment you bolded. When next gen launches the next 3D Mario will indeed by the Mario game everyone is hyped about from then on. Especially since a new generation will have started. Your sales data doesn't change those facts.

New 3D Mario was heavily favored over old 2D Mario. When next gen launches we're gonna again have a new 3D Mario and an old 2D Mario...but TotK is still gonna be the new Zelda for many more years.

I respect your argument that Wonder might pass TotK in sales, but you're losing the case with your comment here that uses partial data to try to make a claim that simply isn't true. Show the whole data set and suddenly your argument is entirely false haha

Your argument was that the 3D Mario game will be the Mario game to buy, therefore SMB Wonder's legs will suffer. What the sales data shows is that even a new 3D Mario game vs. a port of a 2D Mario game cannot claim superiority in legs, let alone a clear victory, hence your argument is wrong. The sales data isn't cherry-picked, because it directly addresses your argument of head to head legs. The fiscal year ending March 2020 happens to be the first full fiscal year where both games have been available, so this is the whole data set with the exception of the most recent fiscal quarter where NSMBU Deluxe leads again. So it's a 3:1 victory for NSMBU Deluxe for full years, plus a lead heading into year 5 of concurrent availability.

Your counter-argument that NSMBUD came out in 2019 with little fanfare, so it had to rely on legs is just as bad. If a 2D Mario game releases with no hype, yet still keeps selling for years, then it would be logical to think that a new 2D Mario game with hype behind it will have legs too.

But by now I'd say that the primary stumbling block for you in this thread is that you don't understand that 2D Mario and 3D Mario are entirely different series. It's basically like Mario Kart is its own series and you obviously wouldn't be insane enough to suggest that a 3D Mario game can cut the legs of a Mario Kart game, because in that case you'd understand that you are talking about two different series.